Jeff Goodman blowing up Stans
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One can question his on-court coaching or his discipline at the end of his 14 year run at MSU .. BUT no one in CBB outworks Stans.
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If not, please don't slander the young men.
If not, please don't slander the young men.
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Well that's good bc he damn sure doesn't scare anyone on the court with his in game coaching. What's the point in having all those highly rated guys if you underachieve and lose to teams like Rider all the time? Stans likes to take those loaded teams to the NIT.
Wonder what that talent will produce on the floor. Maybe he wont do the Stansbury Stall this time around.
Wish he would have recruited that well at MSU. He recruited pretty good, but never on the level of his current class at WKU.
Add Bender to the whifs
Mario Austin should have been McDonald's AA
Rodney Hood was very highly rated
Most of Stans top producers at MSU were just below the top tier recruits though - Bost, Gordon, Rhodes, & Zimmerman.
I am sure that I missed some.
Mario Austin should have been McDonald's AA
Rodney Hood was very highly rated
Most of Stans top producers at MSU were just below the top tier recruits though - Bost, Gordon, Rhodes, & Zimmerman.
I am sure that I missed some.
Mario was a McD AA, right? He wore the shorts around Hawthorne my freshmen year....
He missed on Greg Monroe as well, whom we almost landed.
By "whiffed" you mean signed and lost to the NBA draft. In other words, all of college basketball failed to land those players.
You're right that his impact players were not top tier talent coming out of high school. Austin was a McDonald's All-American. He and Sidney were the only two Stansbury got to campus in 14 years. By comparison, Calipari had four in 2016 alone. A lot of people overstate the talent that Stansbury got to Starkville to argue that he didn't develop players or win with his talent. Was he a good recruiter? Yes, he won more games than anybody at Mississippi State. Should he have won more? As a State fan, the answer is always Yes. But the "He can recruit but can't coach" line was repeated enough by fans and sports writers that any truth behind the statement was exaggerated.
Great Post. 98% of our fans thought we had 3 future NBA players on the court at all times when Stansbury was the coach. We didn't.
I got really tired of the line that Stans had top tier talent, but couldn't coach. It was stupid, and people with an agenda finally convinced everyone that we could do better...Look how that turned out.
For the record I think Stansbury needed to go at the end. Between Sidney, the Fight in Hawaii, and the epic collapse at the end of his last season it got hard to defend him, but to act like he was some hack coach is just wrong. He did a lot for this university, and is still involved in the community with some things. I wish him all the best at WKU.
I got really tired of the line that Stans had top tier talent, but couldn't coach. It was stupid, and people with an agenda finally convinced everyone that we could do better...Look how that turned out.
For the record I think Stansbury needed to go at the end. Between Sidney, the Fight in Hawaii, and the epic collapse at the end of his last season it got hard to defend him, but to act like he was some hack coach is just wrong. He did a lot for this university, and is still involved in the community with some things. I wish him all the best at WKU.
I guess Timmy Bowers wasn't very good. The fact he got LRob and Shane to transfer in was a great recruiting feat. it seems like under Stans we always had a first team All-Sec Player every year-sometimes 2. jarvis Varnardo?? All Time shot blocker, Stans must have seen some talent in Him. in the years since Stans we have not had a team close to one of Stans ****** teams. Biggest mistake in MSU history is firing Stans.
Stansbury's last five seasons: 108 wins
First five seasons without Stansbury: 67 wins
Hopefully we can average 25 wins per season over the next nine years and almost match Stansbury's 14 year win total in 14 years.
Mississippi State basketball fan delusion: We've been to two Sweet Sixteens in the past 50+ years, but for some it's still the only measure of success.
Our WP over the period of time that we haven't gone is something like 55 points higher than any other power 5 team that hasn't gone. It's an indictment. The problem was never how much we were winning during the season to me -- it's how much we were winning in the postseason.
Obviously in hindsight a lot of stuff would/should have been done differently. But I don't see why the measuring stick we were constantly on the brink of back then should change now? The hypocrisy would be changing the long-term expectations and to quit striving toward that -- because we have had a handful of crap years and haven't been as good as Stans and his predecessor were, although I expect to be close next year. The fact is -- statistically -- we should have easily backed our way in sometime in the last 20 years just on pure luck given how good many of our teams actually were.
P5 Team(last sweet 16 appearance) - Last year:
Arkansas(1996) - 8-seed that was very much on the brink and dumb late mistakes away from knocking off the champ
Mississippi State(1996)
Georgia(1996)
Arizona St(1995)
Oregon St(1982)
Rutgers(1979)
Virginia Tech(1967) - 9-seed
Colorado(1963)
Nebraska(n/a)
Northwestern(n/a) - 8-seed that was very much on the brink as well against the eventual national runner up
I miss bitching about not making the Sweet 16. We can't even make the SEC-Big 12 Challenge these days. And the CBI or one of those other ******** postseason tournaments would be a dream season for us. The last 5 years have been about as bad as the end of the Bob Boyd era and Richard Williams first season or two. Only they've lasted longer than that did. I'm just glad we haven't played any high school teams the last 5 years. That could have really been embarrassing.
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Derrick Zimmerman
Timmy Bowers
Mario Austin
Shane Power
Winsome Frazier
Gary Ervin
Lawrence Roberts
Charles Rhodes
Jamont Gordon
Jarvis Varnado
Romero Osby
The Delks
Barry Stewart
Ben Hanbrough
Dee Bost
Arnette Moultrie
Other than that, 17ing no one
Timmy Bowers
Mario Austin
Shane Power
Winsome Frazier
Gary Ervin
Lawrence Roberts
Charles Rhodes
Jamont Gordon
Jarvis Varnado
Romero Osby
The Delks
Barry Stewart
Ben Hanbrough
Dee Bost
Arnette Moultrie
Other than that, 17ing no one
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