Sure.
I'm guessing most of our guys were tired from the pace. Not tryin to be critical of anyone. Was simply saying you really can't act like we would have won if any one player gets more time. They all had mistakes.
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I'm guessing most of our guys were tired from the pace. Not tryin to be critical of anyone. Was simply saying you really can't act like we would have won if any one player gets more time. They all had mistakes.
At some point we have to start winning big games. There comes a point when all the excuses go out the door.
Well, no. Indiana wouldn't have been within 3 in the closing seconds at full strength.
You can't expect elite results missing important players. This is a completely different game with Bradshaw.
Would you expect Kansas to be at their best without Dickinson or Harris? Of course not.
It’s wild to think Edwards was “in the conversation” for the number #1 pick heading into tonight. He has lots of time to redeem himself but he isn’t going to be THAT guys. The season hinges on how long it takes Cal to accept that Dillingham is the best option over Wagner. Just like Wallace over Wheeler last year.
Yup.
And based on what we saw tonight, I think that comes this season. We just need to have our entire team.
The Nuggets would lose a lot more without Jokic.
Kansas ain’t winning **** this year
Basketball is round, it bounces on the ground.
But...it was a freshman mistake.
That's my point.
The OP is acting like we lost because Cal played guys making mistakes too many minutes. But Reed in crunch time made freshman mistakes. He had a turnover late. The whole "clock running down" doesn't excuse it. Know the time on the clock.
I'm not here to criticize Reed. I thought he was very good for us tonight. But he made mistakes like the rest of the guys.
I mean yeah, most of the time in high profile games against two great teams it comes down to a single play to decide who wins. And most of the time it just comes down to whose players executed better. That's just basketball.
Shep had 13 points in 16 minutes on 4-5 shooting. 1 Assist and 4 steals.
Wagner/Edwards had 5 points in 54 minutes on 1-18 shooting.
But yeah, Shep "made mistakes too."
It’s hillarious how the cal blame shifted throughout this game.
First it was cal keeping dilly from 40… then it was Reed … then they are the reason Kansas took the lead at the end… then it was poor coaching on the last play when reeves was about to be wide freaking open for a top of the key three.. but cal made Sheppard take a TERRIBLE shot, and really one that I did not expect him to take a shot that bad in that situation(but I’d rather it happen now and learn then later).
I don’t love his offense sometimes but Jesus some of y’all haters really show you don’t know much about basketball. We had a great game plan. Defense and youth and zero size(plus an egregious acting job where he literally intentionally tripped himself on Mitchell) did us in.
First it was cal keeping dilly from 40… then it was Reed … then they are the reason Kansas took the lead at the end… then it was poor coaching on the last play when reeves was about to be wide freaking open for a top of the key three.. but cal made Sheppard take a TERRIBLE shot, and really one that I did not expect him to take a shot that bad in that situation(but I’d rather it happen now and learn then later).
I don’t love his offense sometimes but Jesus some of y’all haters really show you don’t know much about basketball. We had a great game plan. Defense and youth and zero size(plus an egregious acting job where he literally intentionally tripped himself on Mitchell) did us in.
This is the main reason we lost in my opinion. Going on that run in the first half was a huge energy suck. A lot of the second half issues were boneheaded mistakes and lazy play. The freshmen are still getting their conditioning right. If this game is played again in March we'd look much better down the stretch.
You don't feel that a late turnover and chucking up a desperation 3 with 10 seconds on the shot clock are mistakes?
I think Reed played a good game. You're delusional if you don't think he made mistakes.
Cal will find a way to not play Shep. Book it
I understand and have thoughts on how they approached Dickinson but Cal has simply lost too many games like this. UK was up 5 points with 3:14 to go and scored 1 point.
The Calipari Special is already a thing. Has been for years.
Never going to win anything of importance again under cal he shrivels up and slows down the tempo when up 14 probably looking at another double digit loss season
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Of course he made mistakes. But Cal keeping him out of the game is one of the main reasons we lost. He's far more efficient than Cal's golden boys.
I would be willing to say that won't ever happen again with Sheppard ... the kid is too smart and savvy. At this point I worry about Wagner considering the amount of minutes with very little production. Not sure I have any faith in Calipari any more. That said, lets get our bigs back and hope this team can put together a special season. Hoping that Cal can get the hell out of the way because I think he may be one of the worse in-game coaches I've ever seen at UK while being one of the most arrogant.
I'M a cal hater, hated him the day they hired him and look to stomp on him any chance i get. But Cal did not cost us this game. KU is #1 and very good. Cal cant hit the 3's that were missed down the stretch. He couldn't hit the FTs that were missed. He had them ready to play and play hard. It not Cals fault that KU had a freak 7 footer and we didnt have a healthy big man. THIS one was not CAL.
UK will be fine. I certainly don't want to face UK in the tournament. Once you get your bigs back Kentucky will roll.
If Wagner doesn’t take a horrible 3 point shot with 10 seconds on the shot clock at the end of the 1st half or plays with any resemblance to a 5* for 10 minutes of his time, UK wins.
Precisely. It's a 40-minute team game. Nobody plays a flawless game. Some players have full bad games. Others have a bad moment or two. Some step up just at the right time. Saying one player cost a team the game is asinine and silly.
That’s exactly what you did with Sheppard. The possession before Reeds turnover, Thiero did the same thing-drove and made a bad pass.
If we can't get Wagner and Edwards going then it's going to be a looong year and we will be OUT the first weekend, again. We HAVE to get those guys going to have a great season.
I was making a point. Sheppard couldn't have cost us the game. He didn't give up 89 points. He didn't allow Dickhead to go for 20 and 20 or whatver it was. He and Dillingham didn't go 5 for 29 from 3. It's a team game. Saying any 1 player like you did and I did is just asinine and silly.
Shep played 16 minutes. Cal is clearly going to ride the DJ train all year. If DJ plays like this all year we are toast. Shep is not going to get 29 minutes a game. Cal isn't that smart.
Remember when we lost to UMass in 1995? Pitino immediately swapped PGs and put Epps in charge of the team. The rest was history.
Can you honestly say that Cal would have the humility to do something like that?
Great effort by our guys, put ourselves in a Position to win despite being outmanned. I do think CAL has to look at the fact that we scored 1 point in last 3 minutes. We had a 6 point lead at last TV time out. HOW MANY TIMES must our entire offense break down, despite the personell we are playing, at the end of games with the lead, before Cal takes a look at the way he coaches at end of games. This **** has been going on repeatedly for YEARS. Cost us a title, a Final Four game and at least 2 opportunities to go to FF just to name a FEW. It cost is tonight, it IS on Cal at this point,it has happened too many times with too many different teams to think otherwise
we won’t win sht this year anyway. Wagner Cals boy and he’s a typical undersized brick layer with some quickness and can’t finish around trees. Said day one he’ll eventually shoot us out of it anyway.
Calipari got lucky winning a single title. The guy is a sht coach. Sht coaches who put other sht above winning don’t win championships they’re too hard to win anyway.
Calipari got lucky winning a single title. The guy is a sht coach. Sht coaches who put other sht above winning don’t win championships they’re too hard to win anyway.
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My post was in response to your post about Sheppard. Your point about Shep was not a good example.
In all honesty, I didn’t expect UK to win this game. In part due to injuries but also in large part because of Cals abysmal record against ranked opponents over the span of the last 7-8 years. However, this game was within UKs grasp regardless of injuries etc. and UK scores 1 point the last 3 minutes of the game. Cal will ride his chosen few to the detriment of the team. I am not remotely saying Wagner is a bad player—but tonight he absolutely was not good. Dillingham was hot and Cal takes him out. Shep plays solid and he goes out. This is typical of Cal.
Wagner will be better in our next three games, when we play Local Union #69 and Randolph Macon Tech Wheelchair Champions and such. And you'll see his defenders fog up this entire forum with their farts.
I can see it now ''hey wagner haters how about tonight!'' with 5 heart reactions and 10 likes. As wagner puts up 15 and 10 against Mcneely's boys home state.
Do you know basketball better than a Hall of Fame coach?
Is Cal immune to getting tunnel vision or having blind spots? He's already admitted his most important goal is draft night. Are you really going to take the position that UK basketball fans AREN'T the most knowledgeable fans?
Cult leader Manson knows better. Cult leader Manson knows all.
I’m fine moving on, this game film is invaluable only 3 games in. But absolutely cannot lose to Miami. That’s when we start down the path of 5, 6 seed etc.
I really can’t wait for our bigs to step on the floor and compete, but I just hope it doesn’t slow us down because that is the best way for this team to be at their best!
What do you think coaches are supposed to do? Do they just roll the balls out and let the players run their own practices and recruit themselves to UK?