OT: Unwritten rules of baseball

[BlueRidgeMtns]

I'm all for them, I was just curious about SPS' take.

I keep hearing this pop up on ESPN and Dan Le Batard went as far as to say that it was more about racism because players of color typically show more emotion and white players don't like that or something ridiculous. I personally don't think race has anything to do with it and it's more about how the game used to be played versus the newer mentality of putting yourself before your team and being in the spotlight. Either way, baseball does a good job of regulating itself.

 

[aTotal360]

If you want to be "showy", you're going to get popped. Doesn't matter what race you are.

 

[Original48]

Marshall Henderson disagrees...https://youtu.be/zAruOdZo0oE

 

[T-TownDawgg]

IMO the margins for success in baseball are so razor thin; you can't just show up and physically dominate your opponent like many other sports. Even HOF players have terrible games peppered into every season. Act an *** on this hit, then K your next 5 AB. Humbling.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Even if black players are more emotional, that doesn't give you a free pass.

 

[Todd4State]

Ironically LeBetard's comments are racist. My take on it is the same as most people. You do something good it's fine to celebrate it. If you show up the other team don't be surprised if they knock you down.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Yes because Dak was way more showy than Manziel.

 

[aTotal360]

baseball.

 

[boatsandhoes]

Take Jody bats for example in the ATL game last night....I mean this from a guy who got his come ups on national tv by odor. It's a you problem. he's prolly not going to change, because he's just a natural born shi*head. I hope atl plunks the hell out of him. He deserves it. There's him/or a Terrell Owens type, and then there are people like emmitt smith/Barry sanders/Hines ward. You can play the game (whatever it is) like a champion win or lose, or you can play it like a spoiled entitled 5 year old. that is an attitude thing, disrespect, and it transcends race. Actually race has nothing to do with it much like other times the race card gets played. you're telling me bats is a sh*thead because he's Dominican? Not buying, he does it because he has no idea what class means.

 

[Dogariffic]

Yes because Dak was way more showy than Manziel.

Yeah that pointing to his mom thing is way over the top...*

 

[Hoover Dawg]

You're always going to find exceptions, to every rule.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Take Jody bats for example in the ATL game last night....I mean this from a guy who got his come ups on national tv by odor. It's a you problem. he's prolly not going to change, because he's just a natural born shi*head. I hope atl plunks the hell out of him. He deserves it. There's him/or a Terrell Owens type, and then there are people like emmitt smith/Barry sanders/Hines ward. You can play the game (whatever it is) like a champion win or lose, or you can play it like a spoiled entitled 5 year old. that is an attitude thing, disrespect, and it transcends race. Actually race has nothing to do with it much like other times the race card gets played. you're telling me bats is a sh*thead because he's Dominican? Not buying, he does it because he has no idea what class means.

Between that losers bat flip and all the HBPs the Jays can go 17 themselves

 

[llmsudawg]

Someone should tell JoeyBats that bat flips are only allowed for balls hit farther than the average high-school home run***

 

[state2013]

I love the reaction on both sides. I hope there's more bat flips and showboating. More showboating=more bench clearing brawls=more entertainment

 

[KurtRambis4]

I generally enjoy

Dan's show, and it's usually funny. However, when he goes into his victimization/racist tirades (which is quite often) I have to turn it off.

In those regards, he and I just have very different outlooks.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

Thought the same thing. Way to perpetuate that stereotype, LeBetard

Ironically LeBetard's comments are racist. My take on it is the same as most people. You do something good it's fine to celebrate it. If you show up the other team don't be surprised if they knock you down.

All those black guys punching the dugout walls in celebration and breaking their hands and stuff.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

The "enforcement" of baseball's unwritten rules is moronic.

First, flip bats and run the bases as slow or fast as you want. It's a game, this isn't the military.

Risking injuring someone with a hit by pitch because you didn't like how much they enjoyed their previous at bat is childish. You're also hurting your own team by putting someone on base.

Nothing would make me happier than seeing a group of guys play flashy, put on some thick pads for their next at bat, and excitedly celebrate their free bases, bat flip and all.

 

[paindonthurt_]

You probably thought Ron Artest was a class act.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

****. They already wear enough armor. Also, not all bat flips are created equally. If Bat Flip McGee wants to keep celebrating so aggressively he's going to keep getting hit.

Flash & celebration are tolerated; even expected. This isn't golf. There aren't some stuffy old dudes defending the sanctity of the game. It's the young players themselves getting pissed. His peers. The game polices itself. Also, you'll note their are more beanball wars in the AL due to the DH.

 

[tatedog]

Pretty ballsy to say that black players show more emotion and then proceed to cry "racism." I can't name more than two facial expressions Tony Gwynn ever displayed.

 

[tatedog]

You're always going to find exceptions, to every rule.

Yes, which is why you don't lump people together by physical appearance like an amalgamation of traits you confer on them.

 

[dickiedawg]

The player that immediately comes to mind when I think of showboat is Bryce Harper. That generalization just really doesn't ring true to me in baseball. To be fair, though, Lebatard probably watches a ton more pro baseball than I do.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Yes because Dak was way more showy than Manziel.

Dak's only half-showy.

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

First, flip bats and run the bases as slow or fast as you want. It's a game, this isn't the military.

Risking injuring someone with a hit by pitch because you didn't like how much they enjoyed their previous at bat is childish. You're also hurting your own team by putting someone on base.

Nothing would make me happier than seeing a group of guys play flashy, put on some thick pads for their next at bat, and excitedly celebrate their free bases, bat flip and all.

I don't understand why the players get so mad about a dude flipping a bat end over end rather than tossing it down. It just sounds dumb when you say it out loud.

That said I can see how the manner in which they do it could piss the other team off. I could see the bat flip being executed like the post dunk stare down in basketball, completely disrespectful.