MHSAA and NWR/St. Andrews

[Sundawg1974]

First, I apologize if you have read this on multiple boards. I am trying to get legitimate feedback if I am being reasonable.

A month or so ago both St. Andrews and Northwest Rankin baseball were disqualified from playoffs due to use of ineligible player under Rule 4.10.3 (negligence of school officials to adequately check rules, regulations, and records). Not due to malicious falsification or other egregious actions.


St. Andrews went to arbitration and NWR was not allowed to since the Rankin County School District was less eager to spend education funds on arbitration/legal fees for a sports programs at one of many schools.


St. Andrews won their arbitration with the Arbitrator finding that disqualification from the playoffs for violation of Rule 4.10.3 is not allowed per the MHSAA handbook and is therefore arbitrary and capricious. MHSAA is limited to disciplinary probation which does not include disqualification from the playoffs.


Mr. Hinton refuses to change the penalty imposed against Northwest Rankin in spite of the fact that it has been clearly shown that disqualification from the playoffs IS NOT ALLOWED FOR RULE 4.10.3 PER THEIR OWN HANDBOOK/GUIDELINES.


Now I'll admit I am prejudice since I have a child on the baseball team. But putting aside any dislike you might have for NWR, is this how MHSAA operates? They appear more concerned with hiding behind their bureaucracy and pettiness, rather than doing what is right (per their own guidelines) for Students.


Am I seeing this correctly? What can be done?

 

[MaroonNation]

I was under the impression that the NWR baseball coach had received permission from the MHSAA to play said player. Then Warren central's coach complained to the MHSAA about NWR playing an ineligible player and the MHSAA all the sudden forgot about giving NWR the go ahead to play him. The coach said publically that he had prior approval.

 

[Sundawg1974]

I was under the impression that the NWR baseball coach had received permission from the MHSAA to play said player. Then Warren central's coach complained to the MHSAA about NWR playing an ineligible player and the MHSAA all the sudden forgot about giving NWR the go ahead to play him. The coach said publically that he had prior approval.

You are correct, we had prior written approval for the player, but MHSAA said it was still our responsibility. But with this ruling that is irrelevant. They can penalize McClaskey, but by their own policy they cannot restrict NWR from being the playoffs.

Yet that hat is just what they are doing.

 

[512taylor]

Same "Hinton" that coached at NWR many years ago?

 

[mcdawg22]

Because you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than St Andrews.

 

[patdog]

MHSAA is a joke of an organization. The schools need to get rid of everyone there and bring in a new group of people to run it.

 

[mount lefroy]

You are correct, we had prior written approval for the player, but MHSAA said it was still our responsibility. But with this ruling that is irrelevant. They can penalize McClaskey, but by their own policy they cannot restrict NWR from being the playoffs.

Yet that hat is just what they are doing.

They didn't suddenly forget. What started as an ineligible player wound up as a recruiting violation.

 

[MaroonNation]

It was my understanding that it was not a recruiting violation but a violation of eligibility because the kid played baseball at two different schools during the same year. He obviously played Warren Central at St Andrews then again at NWR.
Now NWR recruits kids for sure from out of district. The rental house in our neighborhood has played host to a few families from out of district who's kids were brought in to play at NWR. But this was not the case here. Kid started off at NWR, then transferred to St Andrews and finally returned to NWR.

 

[Sundawg1974]

There were no recruiting violations accused or admitted. Not sure where this rumor comes from.

 

[Sundawg1974]

To be completely clear, the St Andrews case and NWR case involved two different kids. The similarity was that both involved transfers from private schools at the beginning of the season. NWR was "turned in" by St Andrews when they were "turned in" by Seminary.

 

[HD6]

In my opinion, the sensible thing to do is to reinstate NWR and close St. Andrews down for eternity. Only fair solution.

 

[mount lefroy]

There were no recruiting violations accused or admitted. Not sure where this rumor comes from.

Unfortunately, it's not a rumor.

 

[Sundawg1974]

There is nothing in the accusations which state anything about recruiting, nor was it discussed in MHSAA or Executive Committee meetings. If you have something that says otherwise, please send me a copy.

 

[Philly Dawg]

I know no specifics about this case, but MHSAA may not agree with the arbitrator's decision and could be seeking review, even if it doesn't stop St. Andrew's from playing this year.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Sounds interesting.

Can you provide links for this info?

 

[Shmuley]

You asked "[w]hat can be done?" Since the school district will not appeal the ruling, the only option left is for parents to seek redress in Rankin County Chancery Court [would probably be transferred to Hinds Chancery, God help you] by establishing standing on behalf of the affected students and asserting a basis for a restraining order/mandatory injunction that prohibits the MHSAA from penalizing NWR/compels MHSAA to reinstate NWR. In other words, bitching on a message board does nothing. Get the checkbook out, hire legal counsel, head to court and knock yourself out. You will get absolutely zero of your money back; you may lose (actualy, likely); but the courthouse is wide open and it's your only option. Or you can be like the vast majority of folks these days who expect someone else to fix their problems for them and pay for it while they're at it.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Sounds like mistakes were made. BUT MHSAA WILL RUE THE DAY!!!