What a cheap loss

[1msucub]

Gonna be a long year

 

[skydawg1]

Gonna be a long year

Jim say "Give Tech credit". Cann says "This is a game we should have won". Yes.

 

[Shamoan]

I just don't get some of the decisions made...it's head scratching. Scott Stricklin really 17ed us over. What a dick.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I just don't get some of the decisions made...it's head scratching. Scott Stricklin really 17ed us over. What a dick.

There it is. The over emotional "Cannizzaro is in over his head" post I've been waiting for.

 

[MarkDallas]

If we thought we had the right baseball coach, in his prime, then why make him AD? He was the best AD candidate in the country?

 

[Shamoan]

I must have missed it, where did I say that again?

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Cann says "This is a game we should have won". Yes.

And we would have if it wasn't for our meddling Head Coach...

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I must have missed it, where did I say that again?

Well Im all ears to hear how Scott screwed us over if not setting into place the Cohen to Cannizzaro transition.

 

[skydawg1]

And we would have if it wasn't for our meddling Head Coach...

Cann was pissed. We'll see what happens going forward. My guess...a lot more close losses with maybe a few less questionable pitching changes. It must be some kind of awkward to be hired as head coach with your staff already picked for you. Thanks Meddler.

 

[dawgphd]

Having zero to do with any one game, I am curious why Tulane did note hire Cann in July?

 

[Shamoan]

Where did I say Cannizzaro was in over his head? We lost a good coach and ad in the same move. It's that simple.

 

[skydawg1]

Having zero to do with any one game, I am curious why Tulane did note hire Cann in July?

Tulane may have offered, he may have said "no thanks". Dude was Mangina's #1 guy (okay, probably #2 guy after Alan Dunn) and that's a better job than the Tulane HC. I'm glad we got him. I just hate that he's having to learn on the job. My hope is that he's our key to consistancy now that all the rediculous bats/balls **** has been worked out in college baseball.

 

[Carbaryl]

As big of a homer as Gene is he predicted after watching the fall and pre-season camp that this was a #3 seed type of team.I think that's pretty telling.

 

[Shamoan]

It's just a bad situation he is starting in with so many arms out, losing so much productivity via draft, and having to learn the game from a manager's perspective for the first time.

 

[KurtRambis4]

It doesn't take

a genius to see that this year was a rebuild. Any person with a modicum of sense would know.

 

[Carbaryl]

a genius to see that this year was a rebuild. Any person with a modicum of sense would know.

Yep!

 

[coach66]

Agree, my expectations were set accordingly and it makes things much more

enjoyable. We will be back and better than ever, just takes a little time.

 

[patdog]

I hope Gene was right and this is a #3 seed team. That would be a pretty good year for us this year.

 

[msstate7]

I hope Gene was right and this is a #3 seed team. That would be a pretty good year for us this year.

Seems like this is the same as us hoping for the NIT/tourney early in basketball early this year. It didn't work out and I doubt seriously this does either

 

[ronpolk]

There it is. The over emotional "Cannizzaro is in over his head" post I've been waiting for.

That is what shamoan does. He's makes emotional post where everybody knows exactly what he's saying but he never comes out and says fire a coach. It's 100% clear that post was a shot at Cohen and canz... but now, in typical fashion, he acts like he didn't insinuate anything.

 

[Shamoan]

or maybe you are incorrectly reading into something i am typing...if i wanted to say i think we should fire someone, i would say it. its beyond asinine to suggest that we should fire cannizarro. he stepped into an extremely ****** situation with a depleted roster. that doesnt excuse him from criticism when he admits we lost a game we should have won (per his own words).

 

[tired]

I just don't get some of the decisions made...it's head scratching. Scott Stricklin really 17ed us over. What a dick.

Well clarify. What decision do you not get, & what's head scratching to you?

 

[mstate228]

Cohen knew what he was doing getting out when he did. He knew that the talent level of this team was going to be deplorable. Cannizaro is going to be a great fit for us, but he's going to have to replenish the talent through recruiting and hope the draft doesn't kill his classes. He also walked into a situation where he didn't get to bring in any of his own staff which has to be extremely frustrating for him especially when things have been going the way they are. Bottom line, the talent level of this team 1 through 9 isn't near what it needs to be to compete with top 25 teams consistently. Especially the pitching.

 

[Shamoan]

totally agree.

 

[KurtRambis4]

VALID criticism,

that doesnt excuse him from criticism

I can handle. Idiots coming out saying "Cohen don't know bout hitting!!!1" or "Henderson don't know bout pitchin!!!!1" is just 17ing dumb.

 

[Shamoan]

pulling billingsley, then barton, then barlow, the ashcraft in the succession he did to set the table for self and rigby. musical chairs when we were getting outs with a questionable at-best bullpen.

 

[Shamoan]

i agree

 

[maroonmania]

And we would have if it wasn't for our meddling Head Coach...

and his dumb dog!**

 

[maroonmania]

We seem to be inventing new ways to lose close games on a regular basis now. Sunday we lose because we give up the tying run in the 8th without our opponent even getting a hit and last night we lose because we can't throw down to 1st base after a dropped strikeout without plunking the runner in the back.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Do you think it's

possible that, given our situation with pitching and that it's extremely early in the season, we are still trying to figure out guys roles prior to league play?

 

[ronpolk]

pulling billingsley, then barton, then barlow, the ashcraft in the succession he did to set the table for self and rigby. musical chairs when we were getting outs with a questionable at-best bullpen.

You act like self and rigby have been bad this year.

 

[8dog]

Self gave up the lead. I cant think of a releiver i would
rather have had out there.
Give up 3 runs in midweek you should win

 

[Shamoan]

sure, but i dont think a tight ballgame against a top 25 team throwing a weekend pitcher is the spot to do that.

 

[Shamoan]

if guys are getting outs, not sure why you pull em if the most important thing is winning the game. per cann, we should have won, so why didnt we? its rhetorical.

 

[KurtRambis4]

You know good & well

that in that situation, with those guys "getting outs", if Cannizaro had left one in and they'd given up a moon shot the following at bat, you would have been clamoring "WHY DIDN'T WE PUT IN SELF!!!!?1"

 

[Shamoan]

i could argue otherwise, but you wouldnt believe me. they could also stay in and pitch a shut-out. cuts both ways. the one thing we know is musical chairs started and we lost. we could have lost no matter what we did. same goes when we should have bunted rooker with two on no outs in oregon. i doubt you would argue that he called the losses perfectly. look, he is young and inexperienced in making coaching decisions and everybody get that he should have some leeway for the bad situation he is in. i dont fault him for that, but to try and oppose valid criticism is very genes-page-ish. criticism in any way has been described as bashing a "kid" or coach and accusations of wanting someone fired start to fly.

 

[ronpolk]

if guys are getting outs, not sure why you pull em if the most important thing is winning the game. per cann, we should have won, so why didnt we? its rhetorical.

I don't disagree about changing pitchers. I'm a fan of leaving a guy until he starts getting hit. I just find it curious you complain about self and rigby. They are probably our best relievers.

This goes to the point that rambis was making, why couldn't you just say I think changing pitchers was dumb and it cost the game? Instead, you said I don't understand decisions that have been made and SS really screwed us. See the difference in criticism vs questioning someone's ability to do the job.

 

[patdog]

I agree with you about taking out pitchers who are getting guys out. But managers at all levels of baseball do this all the time. They structure their bullpens by 7th inning pitchers, 8th inning pitchers, 9th inning pitchers (the old closer), etc. I think it's ridiculous, but it's the way baseball is managed these days.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

a genius to see that this year was a rebuild. Any person with a modicum of sense would know.

Is that more than a smidgen?*

 

[KurtRambis4]

You're right, I

wouldn't believe you because you have shown a pattern time and time and time again, regardless of sport, for overreacting to every, single, little thing in a game.

I don't give two ***** if someone brings up VALID criticism, but to get on a coach's *** because their best pitcher had a SNAFU, and suggest it was dumb to put him in, is to me, INVALID.

Especially when you know damn well if he had left the less successful kid in there, and the next few batters the less successful pitcher gave up a moonshot for 2 runs, you would be on here raising hell that Self wasn't in. That is what is asinine. You can't have it both ways.