The big question if the day.

[patdog]

It's obvious UM is just blatantly ignoring the public records laws because they know they can. But the question is, after what they have disclosed, just how freaking bad must the letter be that they refuse to disclose it.

 

[harrydawg.sixpack]

It's obvious UM is just blatantly ignoring the public records laws because they know they can. But the question is, after what they have disclosed, just how freaking bad must the letter be that they refuse to disclose it.

Bad enough to take a public relations hit (another one) and look like a bunch of cheating, lying SOB's.....I am still impressed with the Marketing machine in spite of all the BS they still get some media coverage with positive spin. That stuff ain't cheap

 

[engie]

The appearance, to me, has been that the NCAA is after their contrition and submision -- and that OM has given them neither. The actual document is going to be worse than they have admitted to -- and I'm not convinced that what is in the document is the end of their troubles for the aforementioned reason. The NCAA is going to keep going until they "get it" which may be never given how it has gone to this point.

 

[patdog]

I think they'll get it once the sanctions are handed down. If they don't, we're going to see SMU 2.0.

 

[Snog]

Nuclear.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

I don't know at what point that they will "get it". I'm not really sure that they will ever "get it".

Their own writers have made this a Freeze / Christianity vs. NCAA / Devils perception and amazingly there are still a bunch of Ole Miss folks who believe this narrative.

 

[Shamoan]

Based on their lack of transparency and total disregard for the truth, I think it's safe to say that it is much worse than what they have already said, which is shocking because what they have released is about as bad as it gets.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

Sticklers
Honesty
Integrity
Transparency

 

[tatedog]

It's becoming more and more apparent that they tossed out some of the items that they could spin more easily, combined with an organized campaign to drag State down into the mud with them. By the time the full NOA is released, they hoped the blow is softened because they now share the spotlight with others. To pull this plan on off they shouldn't have shot all their credibility on NOA #1. Oops.

 

[coach66]

Well I suspect it will reveal at least one big time player that will be sitting

Several games and also includes some embarrassing booster names that I'm sure those boosters are
fighting like hell to stay private. Rest assured it's not a good look for Ole Miss.

 

[tatedog]

Any thoughts on why CBS suddenly has an interest in FOIA'ing the NOA, coach? It's almost as if they have reason to believe there is more to it. I wonder why they would think that.

 

[coach66]

It certainly looks like the national guys are ready to do battle finally. They

Are just looking for bullets.

 

[patdog]

Don't know that it's CBS so much as it is Dan Wolken. He's one of the few members of the media who have been on this for a while. Not sure where Pat Forde has been lately, he's been on them too.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Nothing unusual. OM gets an NOA. Holds a hostage video/announcement.

Reads excerpts from NOA on camera. Any decent sports reporter who's interested will think, "I want to read the whole thing".

Any thoughts on why CBS suddenly has an interest in FOIA'ing the NOA, coach? It's almost as if they have reason to believe there is more to it. I wonder why they would think that.

 

[DancingRabbit]

OM asshats on twitter have insured that Wolken will stay on top of this.

Dubmasses think they can intimidate Wolken from reporting.

Ha, it's gonna be fun.

Don't know that it's CBS so much as it is Dan Wolken. He's one of the few members of the media who have been on this for a while. Not sure where Pat Forde has been lately, he's been on them too.

 

[maroonmadman]

If it's worse that they have let on then what little talent they have could bail on them. Another reason to withhold releasing info.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If it's worse that they have let on then what little talent they have could bail on them. Another reason to withhold releasing info.

This is the primary reason.......if they keep kicking can down the road...Shea Pat, 21K et al will have to stay.....

 

[BiscuitEater]

I don't know at what point that they will "get it". I'm not really sure that they will ever "get it".

Their recent actions are 'EXACTLY' the same as 22 years ago when beloved coach Billy 'Dog' Brewer was enthroned. Documents weren't available because of 'outside counsel.' Administration lied about severity .. over & over again. In a blink of an eye, they were hit with the harshest penalties since SMU. They fired Brewer .. he 'sued' Ole Miss to get his contract paid. They were 'stunned' that they had been lied to. Rinse .. repeat ..

Institution: University of Mississippi <label class="prompt">Date: </label> November 17, 1994
<label class="prompt">Violation Summary: </label> IMPERMISSIBLE RECRUITING: improper contacts by athletics representatives; transportation, lodging, clothing and entertainment provided by athletics representatives during official visits; offer of automobile, money and airline tickets; entertainment outside 30-mile radius during official visit; impermissible comments regarding prospective student-athlete. EXTRA BENEFITS: clothing valued at $200-300; impermissible loan; use of staff member's automobile. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. [UPHELD ON APPEAL.]
<label class="prompt">Penalty Summary: </label> Public reprimand; annual reports; reduction from 25 to 13 initial grants for 1995-96 and 1996-97; reduction from 56 to 40 official visits for 1995-96 and 1996-97; recertification. [UPHELD ON APPEAL.]
<label class="prompt">
Involved Sports: </label>
Football
<label class="prompt">
Case Level: </label>

<label class="prompt">Involved Penalties: </label> Television: 1 yrs
Reduction in Financial Aid: Yes

Postseason: 2 yrs
Recruiting: Yes

Probation: 4 yrs
Show Cause Penalty: Yes


Vacation of Record: No

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

AJ?