Tunsil part of this

Shamoan

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Could the NCAA not connect the dots, took a pound of flesh elsewhere and decide to move on knowing they have what they needed, or will there be a 3rd addendum with all the tunsil stuff? With as gift-wrapped and headline grabbing as that night was, I'm leaning towards a 3rd addendum a la unc...especially if a staffer rolled on them as was much alleged.
 

RocketDawg

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Could the NCAA not connect the dots, took a pound of flesh elsewhere and decide to move on knowing they have what they needed, or will there be a 3rd addendum with all the tunsil stuff? With as gift-wrapped and headline grabbing as that night was, I'm leaning towards a 3rd addendum a la unc...especially if a staffer rolled on them as was much alleged.

It's also possible ... perhaps not likely ... that they investigated and found nothing. Maybe they could blame Tunsil's response on being ... well ... dumb ... and not understanding what was being asked. I doubt that's the case, but one never knows.
 

mount lefroy

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Could the NCAA not connect the dots, took a pound of flesh elsewhere and decide to move on knowing they have what they needed, or will there be a 3rd addendum with all the tunsil stuff? With as gift-wrapped and headline grabbing as that night was, I'm leaning towards a 3rd addendum a la unc...especially if a staffer rolled on them as was much alleged.

They took it into consideration which will make the appeal look....well....disingenuous
 

Shamoan

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On him being stupid kinda gets tossed out with the screenshots about agreed upon amounts...doesn't it? That's the trail they needed.
 

patdog

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What possible purpose could a 3rd letter serve? They're going to end the careers of the major culprits and nuke the program to the point it's going to take at least 6-8 years to get back up to full strength in scholarships. There's a limit to how much you can punish a school no matter what they've done. Also, the death penalty is now officially on the table for any future violations in the next 4 years or so.
 

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I believe they stated that there was not a "NEW" violation on Tunsil. They probably just expanded with already lengthy 1st NOA violation.
 

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I think 1 of 2 things:

Either

1) The NCAA decided to close the investigation here with the concrete stuff they do have and go ahead and hand down USC style penalties if OM decides to keep Freeze. If they fire Freeze they may only get 2 years bowl ban.

2) OM withheld that info and lots of other info.

It's hard to imagine those are the only allegations that are in the addendum/2nd NOA they "received today." There's normally at least some petty ****, and all but one was a level 1 I'm pretty sure. I'm leaning towards number 2. I'll also stick with my original guess of 20-30 schollys lost and 2-3 years probation.
 

patdog

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Doesn't matter if it's 1 or 2. When you've got LOIC and the head coach named for failure to monitor, that's as bad as it can possibly get. You can't do anything more than that. And their penalties are going to make USC's look like a walk in the park. Their letters are a lot more incriminating than USC's was.
 

Shamoan

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I tend to agree that they found enough to accomplish whatever they want and deemed it sufficient. I think the threat of litigation will be a regrettable move for them. Probably not a great idea to thumb your nose at the judge, jury, and executioner.
 

TheStateUofMS

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I may have to go back and read USC's, but they were providing a luxury home to Bush's family if I remember correctly. OM didn't do anything as bad as that.

Normally there's at least a bunch of petty **** too. This is all horrible. This tells me they are hiding information still.
 

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I'm curious. Why do we believe everything Ole Miss is saying today? Ole Miss is still controlling the narrative and what is released. All we know is what they told us was in the NOA today. Remember, a little over a year ago, their AD made a similar release and said the investigation was over and it was mostly Women's BB and Track in the NOA, and all of the FB stuff was from previous Staff. What has happened that makes us believe this is all there is now?

I know that sounds crazy and there is nothing to be gained by holding back anything else, but nothing they have done so far has made much sense either, so I don't think it isn't possible.
 

patdog

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I doubt they've omitted any of the allegations. But you can bet what they've told us is the best possible spin they could put on each one of them. The actual letter is most likely a little worse than they're making it appear to be.
 
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