Ed Aschoff: Cam Akers
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He's the best I've seen in a decade or two. I fully expect him to compete for the Heisman at some point at FSU.
He wasn't effective in the ms al all star game.
But he could find a niche at fsu. I'll hold my judgement.
Ashcoff's a Efing moron....Akers is really good but I also don't take stock in that shitbird's evaluation of football talent.
I've said this before, but I just don't see it. He's a good athlete but not all world.
I don't know how long Aschoff had been on the planet but Brian Darden was way better in high school.
I don't know how long Aschoff had been on the planet but Brian Darden was way better in high school.
I hate that's the argument everyone uses against him. He averaged 500+ yards in 6A MS over a 15 game season. Led his team to a 6A title. Won 6A Mr Football. He had the second highest Opening score of any player in the country.
What else could you possibly ask the kid to do?
What else could you possibly ask the kid to do?
In fairness Aschoff wasn't on this planet when Dupree came out of Mississippi. Best I can tell Aschoff was born in the late 80's. Is Cam better than Favre and McNair? Probably not, but nobody thought they were good coming out of high school either. But every time somebody annoints a MS player as the next coming I have a two word response. Brian Darden.
Cam is going to be special. Once he gets legit RB coaching, he'll come into his own. Hell, half the snaps he took were from under center. IMO, they made him throw the ball way too much. Once he's able to just focus on playing RB, he'll be great. Athletically he's just below Dupree, but he's in the top 2-3 MS talents that I can think of.
He's listed at 5'11" and 213. Dalvin Cook is listed at the exact same size and weight on the FSU website. Here are all the 1000 yard backs in the SEC last season
Derrius Guice 5'11" 212
Rawleigh Williams III 5'10" 223
Ralph Webb 5'10" 190
Kam Pettway 6'0" 240
Boom Williams 5'9" 196
Nick Chubb 5'10" 227
Benny Snell 5'11" 220
Damarea Crockett 5'11" 220
Trayveon Williams 5'9" 200
Damien Harris 5'11" 214
So only Kam Pettway is significantly bigger than him. I'm not seeing where your line of thinking is coming from at all, he's the ideal size for a running back.
Derrius Guice 5'11" 212
Rawleigh Williams III 5'10" 223
Ralph Webb 5'10" 190
Kam Pettway 6'0" 240
Boom Williams 5'9" 196
Nick Chubb 5'10" 227
Benny Snell 5'11" 220
Damarea Crockett 5'11" 220
Trayveon Williams 5'9" 200
Damien Harris 5'11" 214
So only Kam Pettway is significantly bigger than him. I'm not seeing where your line of thinking is coming from at all, he's the ideal size for a running back.
Cam weighed in at 213 last Spring at one of Nike's "The Opening" combines, and lasered a 4.41 40. That would've been the 2nd-fastest 40 at last year's NFL combine, and his 40" vertical would've been 2nd-best. Coaches for our MS team told me he was terrific all week at MS-AL practices. I wasn't surprised in the least at what Kylin did in the game but Bama was gonna focus on stopping the nation's #1-ranked RB. And I agree that his inexperience playing RB showed a little in the game.
I wanted to see him stay in state, but he could do something special at FSU. The only thing I could see getting him is that FSU has 4-5 national RB prospects on the roster, and the learning curve at RB might frustrate him if he's behind others early. But he might be so athletic that the learning curve doesn't matter.
I wanted to see him stay in state, but he could do something special at FSU. The only thing I could see getting him is that FSU has 4-5 national RB prospects on the roster, and the learning curve at RB might frustrate him if he's behind others early. But he might be so athletic that the learning curve doesn't matter.
Another "phantom" that never panned out after high school. Best RB out of Miss HS was Dupree....not even close.
No you didn't. You wanted to see him sign with Ole Miss. Just own your fandom.
2nd best at RB
I'm still a little skeptical of the opening's 40 times... Nigel knott ran a 4.30 there and that's only been done 16 at the NFL combine with 21-22 year old athletes
Cox and Jones were as dominant than Akers an those are in the past decade. And we really don't know about anyone else that's signed recently.
National media are sheep. They have a hard-on because 1) It's a RB, and 2) It's a 5 star that left MS to go to a national power. If the guy had signed with Ole Miss the hype would not have been nearly as big. Yes, the OM homers would have done their best locally but they don't have the platform FSU does.
To mention Cam Akers in the same breath with Tebow, Newton, Fournette and other REAL 'once-in-a-decade' type college players is laughable at this point. Lot of 5 stars come and go. Got to prove it.
National media are sheep. They have a hard-on because 1) It's a RB, and 2) It's a 5 star that left MS to go to a national power. If the guy had signed with Ole Miss the hype would not have been nearly as big. Yes, the OM homers would have done their best locally but they don't have the platform FSU does.
To mention Cam Akers in the same breath with Tebow, Newton, Fournette and other REAL 'once-in-a-decade' type college players is laughable at this point. Lot of 5 stars come and go. Got to prove it.
I don't know. At the same combine site the year before in New Orleans, Nigel lasered a 4.51 but he did vertical 44.7". I think he ran a 4.38 at another Opening thing but that might've been handheld.
Dupree came on our show last Friday and told a story where Farrah Fawcett was calling him to come to Texas. Maybe that's common knowledge but I hadn't heard that one. He also said the best ever MS high school player he'd put after himself was Ronnie Ducksworth, a RB from West Jones in the early 80's.
Here is his fate.....and my opinion of "most" 5* players. I suspect this theory is different in states like Texas/Florida/Cali where competition is abundant with physically gifted players.
they are used to being able to beat everyone on talent alone, and not really having to compete or learn new technique. Fragile ego's. so when someone else can match them physically....it scares them.
When he gets to FSU there are going to be multiple guys as talented as he is competing for RB.
Either he folds, or works harder. If he works harder and the competition spurs him on then look out. If he is intimidated by it.....then probably a lost in the depth chart story. The point is they have to be very strong mentally in a program with tons of athletes.
I have the same opinion of those who get lost in the depth chart at Bama (knott, lashley). They get intimidated and fold up. Some...some, obviously there are others that look at it as a challenge and that allows them to reach new heights.
emmitt smith comes to mind as an example of competition just making him work harder. Smaller and always told that, a determined little cuss.
they are used to being able to beat everyone on talent alone, and not really having to compete or learn new technique. Fragile ego's. so when someone else can match them physically....it scares them.
When he gets to FSU there are going to be multiple guys as talented as he is competing for RB.
Either he folds, or works harder. If he works harder and the competition spurs him on then look out. If he is intimidated by it.....then probably a lost in the depth chart story. The point is they have to be very strong mentally in a program with tons of athletes.
I have the same opinion of those who get lost in the depth chart at Bama (knott, lashley). They get intimidated and fold up. Some...some, obviously there are others that look at it as a challenge and that allows them to reach new heights.
emmitt smith comes to mind as an example of competition just making him work harder. Smaller and always told that, a determined little cuss.
I make no bones about being an Ole Miss fan, but there's enough fans and media who hate the rival already. I don't need to add to it.
I wouldn't buy the 4.30 either. Nigel's fast but that's hard to believe. Cam did laser a 4.44 at another Opening combine though, maybe the final one in Oregon.
I've noticed the opposite. 5 stars typically get the discipline needed at the big schools and that makes them work harder BECAUSE they aren't special. They usually get cocky and get into trouble at the smaller schools like MSU and Ole Miss because they, like you say, have a leg up on everyone. Not to mention those coaches had to work so much harder to sign them, so I imagine it gets weird.
We are talking 5 stars here, not Knott and Lashley. They weren't on that level of hype.
We are talking 5 stars here, not Knott and Lashley. They weren't on that level of hype.
Cam Akers is a tremendous talent, but he will have to learn to play Running Back.
I thought Kylin Hill looked much better at RB in the Mississippi/Alabama All-Star game playing against a lot of future SEC defenders.
I thought Kylin Hill looked much better at RB in the Mississippi/Alabama All-Star game playing against a lot of future SEC defenders.
Nobody said he wouldn't be as good as those guys. The point was that he won't be the greatest in decades.
Its never a good idea to judge anything by that game. The only players playing their *** off in that game are the ones wanting a scolly offer they don't have. Why would a star athlete with offers from everywhere and anywhere risk injury in that game?
I'd say he's towards the top and the hype is real also. His stats are as good as just about anyone that has ever come out of MS, and he's doing it against by far the best division in MS HS football. On top of that he puts up some of the best overall athleticism numbers at these combines, so that and his size/build project well to the next level and beyond. Lastly, when you watch his film/highlights and bring the "eye test" into it.... I don't know that I've seen better high school film than that, he looks like he has Dalvin Cook level acceleration.
I think if he were coming to MSU most here would have the opposite take on him.
I think if he were coming to MSU most here would have the opposite take on him.
He became Warren Central’s all-time leading rusher, finishing his career with 4,919 yards, surpassing the old mark of Carl Blue (4,824 yards). He also scored 78 touchdowns in his career, which was a Class 5A record at the time.
Quite honestly he probably could get 1500 at 40 years old. I haven't seen him lately because I'm not on Facebook but a couple of years ago he was in stupid shape because he ran his own fitness company.
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I watched Cam play all the way through last year. The first contact was the best hope of stopping him. Heaven help you if he moved past the first contact. Regardless of what anyone here might say, he was special and will be special at FSU. He will demonstrate what he can do this year. He will play for them as a true freshman.
First of all, I am genuinely happy he was smart enough to forget UM, since they are going to get kicked hard in the balls by NCAA, likely before the season begins in August. To sign with them last year is proof a player wasn't thinking or really needed the money.
Secondly, I wish I knew why he was absolutely against any consideration of MSU, from maybe his sophomore year at CHS. He refused to say anything positive at all about MSU. That is tragic and IMO a sign Mullen does something very wrong.
IMO we will eventually watch Akers run the ball for somebody on Sunday if he stays healthy.
This opinion and $1.50 will get you a cup of McDonald's coffee. Add another $0.50 to that and you might get Starbucks. I am uncertain of that though because I have never walked inside of a Starbucks.
First of all, I am genuinely happy he was smart enough to forget UM, since they are going to get kicked hard in the balls by NCAA, likely before the season begins in August. To sign with them last year is proof a player wasn't thinking or really needed the money.
Secondly, I wish I knew why he was absolutely against any consideration of MSU, from maybe his sophomore year at CHS. He refused to say anything positive at all about MSU. That is tragic and IMO a sign Mullen does something very wrong.
IMO we will eventually watch Akers run the ball for somebody on Sunday if he stays healthy.
This opinion and $1.50 will get you a cup of McDonald's coffee. Add another $0.50 to that and you might get Starbucks. I am uncertain of that though because I have never walked inside of a Starbucks.
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