I noticed it 3 games ago and its gradually gotten worse: he doesnt move off the ball nearly as much as usual, his defensive intensity is slacking some, and he generally just looks tired, disinterested, or depressed. Is this injury partially to blame? Gf crap?
Any ideas whats up with Q?
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I've noticed it too. His passes around the perimeter are slow as 17. I told my wife that his game always looks effortless but lately it really is without effort. I guess playing with Kegler will make you stand around and watch. That dude is gonna shoot wherever he gets the ball.
He always looks the same to me. Pretty even keel all the time.
He is just a sophomore. May just be the weight of carrying this team for so long has finally caught up to him.
Slumps happen a lot in basketball. He'll bounce back.
Q is playing with an injury, and it has to be affecting him in some way. He also is playing with, in my opinion, a couple of guys who want one thing....the ball. Those same two guys seem to always cry when whistled for a foul. On top of that, opposing defenses are focusing on defending him. His teammates do not aggressively set proper screens in order to narrow the path of the guys chasing Q. All that adds to his frustration. The pressure is on him to lead. It would help if 3 and 4 would get their acts together. If their game moves up a couple of notches Q can obtain some breathing room.
No. No he doesn't. Most people don't have the surgeries until their careers are over because recovery can be a long, drawn-out process where he may never be the same again, like worse than it is now.
I've
noticed that he's looked sluggish in the first 1/2 for a few games, but generally seems to have had better second 1/2s.
noticed that he's looked sluggish in the first 1/2 for a few games, but generally seems to have had better second 1/2s.
It's a little thing called perception. He is a shooter, when shooters go cold they don't score. When they don't score, you start looking for the negatives. Now things that seemed like positives look like negatives. Other examples RB goes for 120 yards, he waited for his holes to open up. Same RB goes for 20 yards, he wasn't hitting the holes. Baseball team has 8 first pitch hits, we were aggressive at the plate. Baseball team has a bad performance hitting with a lot of 0-1 counts, we weren't patient enough.
Great observation. I've always felt that even though there are multitudes of overused sports cliches, it's all about whether you win or lose, then the appropriate narratives follow based on your agenda. Often it's luck or literally an inch diff. If you win, the team played "loose", found a way, coaches calls, strategy, were brilliant. Lose on one play and the same game, players weren't focused, sleptwalk, coaches wore shorts, don't care, and think losing is funny.
It's almost funny to watch people flip from one extreme to another when on reality the coach is generally the same guy today as he was before. A made kick just seems to make him smarter.
It's almost funny to watch people flip from one extreme to another when on reality the coach is generally the same guy today as he was before. A made kick just seems to make him smarter.
It's more than that. He's turning it over, not rebounding, not moving great without the basketball, not saying in front of his man on defense, lazy passes, etc. He's our best player and he's not playing his best right now, not in first halves at least. He would probably tell you the same thing. Some of it is defenses adjusting to him, but he has to adjust too and find other ways to make an impact. its relative, because he's still good... Just not his best. We need him to snap out of it ASAP.
The energy just wasnt there. Tenn wanted it more. Howland even said it. Maybe they didnt have much in the tank after kentucky. Thats on the coach and conditioning. If the guy doesnt show me energy out there i would pull him and find someone who does. Doesnt matter who it is. Peters and haiti sensation were the only ones out there giving it their all.
Good others see it to. If q were one of the best ive seen at feeling plays out b4 it happens none of this is relevant. But what makes him so good is that he has 2 things: 1. A knack for sensing the play b4 it happens 2. The desire to move off the ball to set himself and OTHERS up for a better shot/rebound etc.
The last 3 games Q has missed at least 2 wide open easy-as-elementary layups a game. He gives up on wide open threes. He passes into trouble instead of making the extra dribble. His feet arent positioned to take a shot when he catches it (and smartly doesnt shoot). .....he simply isnt doing the tiny things he used to do thay put him in a different pre-play class.
Ive seen this a million times especially in the mens leagues ive played in; its when good players get tired. They try to conserve energy to push with their legs by taking possessions off, dribbling a few more secs to catch air, etc. Im in no way comparing sec basketball to a rec mens league. But its natural indifference in sports. Is he tired? Is thete some other issue? Idk....but i can tell you regardless of wins/losses he's not the same. I believe his #s were good vs txam in a win. But watch any gm b4 that and you'll see those small differences and how they make himself and everyone else better.
The last 3 games Q has missed at least 2 wide open easy-as-elementary layups a game. He gives up on wide open threes. He passes into trouble instead of making the extra dribble. His feet arent positioned to take a shot when he catches it (and smartly doesnt shoot). .....he simply isnt doing the tiny things he used to do thay put him in a different pre-play class.
Ive seen this a million times especially in the mens leagues ive played in; its when good players get tired. They try to conserve energy to push with their legs by taking possessions off, dribbling a few more secs to catch air, etc. Im in no way comparing sec basketball to a rec mens league. But its natural indifference in sports. Is he tired? Is thete some other issue? Idk....but i can tell you regardless of wins/losses he's not the same. I believe his #s were good vs txam in a win. But watch any gm b4 that and you'll see those small differences and how they make himself and everyone else better.
He's not the same player since the injury. I really think he should have the surgery right now and start the recovery process asap. Redshirt all next year. If they can double wrap a ligament around Matt Harvey's elbow they can fix Spoon's wrist. Get Dr. Andrews to do it.
He is the focus of the D of every team we play. Could just be taking a toll. Plus the wristband injury etc. also Coach has mentioned his knees several times.
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