Schneider 17n Herrard!!!!

[Curby]

Nm

 

[kired]

Maybe we should give him a little more hell this week

 

[Predestined]

Doubled his career high. And still time to reach 20

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

The Haitian Sensation.

/stolen from twitter.
//TM so Mizzou can't use.

 

[engie]

Isn't he the suck or was that last week?***

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Isn't he the suck or was that last week?***

he was undeniably the suck. Definitely not today tho.

 

[coach66]

The light appears to be coming on, playing well.

Nm

 

[Curby]

And I totally botched his name. 'Schnider Herard'.

 

[mstateglfr]

This place mirrors the very thing it rips on- espn's reactionary assessments and group think?


Eta- Herard did great. Happy to see him have success while team wins. His pump fakes once again led to free throws and foul trouble for the other team. Effective.

 

[tcdog70]

Bobby Knight said the most under used effective skill in college basketball is the Ball Fake. Herard must have listened to Bobby

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

It's cool at least you don't call him Her-ROD like several of our media guys do.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Nm

He has progressively improved over the season so far. If he keeps it going, he could help us get to the post season.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

He showed a lot of promise today. He now has some good film he can watch of himself. Hopefully he begins to really develop. Still a frosh and 3 years into playing basketball period, but I like what I'm seeing.

 

[engie]

Which is why you don't say a player sucks 10 games into his career when he drops a crapburger or two...

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Which is why you don't say a player sucks 10 games into his career when he drops a crapburger or two...

Well he drop crap burgers pretty much every game, not just 1 or 2, 15 games into his career. And 1 good game doesn't mean he's a different player. I hope it does and I hope he plays this way every game, maybe grab a few more boards. But it's absolutely fair to criticize terrible play.

The flip side is you have to praise high play, which is what I've done.

 

[engie]

It hasn't just been one good game -- you are just a dubmass for defining a guy 8-9 games into his college career just over 2 seasons into his overall career. He was raw -- he didn't suck. He's STILL a freshman halfway through year 1, not that you would recognize a difference.

And my initial post wasn't even actually about you. Although the shoe seems to fit.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

It hasn't just been one good game -- you are just a dubmass for defining a guy 8-9 games into his college career just over 2 seasons into his overall career. He was raw -- he didn't suck. He's STILL a freshman halfway through year 1, not that you would recognize a difference.

And my initial post wasn't even actually about you. Although the shoe seems to fit.

Good to know we can have a civil discussion****

He's been aweful all year, YOURE the dumbass for suggesting otherwise. 8 to 9 games? Are you ******* stupid? We've played 15 games... although there could have been a few games he didn't play because he was aweful for 15 games.

I understand his limited experience, and I hope he continues to improve. Doesn't negate his shortcomings so far.

 

[Philly Dawg]

MSU has had lots of great players who either didn't play or didn't add much at all as freshmen. Not sure he'll be a MSU "great," but look at Holman from freshman to sophomore year.

 

[Curby]

I think Herard has only been playing basketball a couple of years. He was a soccer guy. I believe he's done damn good to get where he's at.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

Some folks critique what they actually see, me. Some folks report on what they may see, you. It's a realist vs a dreamer. Reporter vs a beat writer. Nothing wrong with either. And in this case, both of our assessments have been true. Our players suck when they have sucked. Some folks call it out. It doesn't mean some folks on here are of the dumbass, it just means we report what is happening, not what may happen.

Its ok if you stick with your drum beat of, we are young. You are 100 percent correct. It's ok if you say "we will get better" that too, 100% correct...I mean after watching us vs Bama, how could we play worse? We sucked even in most of our wins prior. We just did, sorry. Something obviously happened after that game that brought us closer together. It's night and day...but to keep making sideways smile remarks every chance you get, you my dude, come off looking like a bully. Do you need a hug? A coke? Posters on here, including myself, knew the potential and couldn't understand how it wasnt clicking better. Everything I've mentioned about our play, leading up to this point has been what has happened, not futuristic put downs. So without further ado* here is my take of today:

Today was our best win of the year for a number of reasons but winning over adversity is the most impressive.

1. Sleepy losing his father
2. Q not scoring a point in the 1st half.
3. Not scoring the first 8 minutes and down 10-0
4. Terribly out manned underneath
5. Foul Trouble
6. Keg having another off night
7. Late turnovers that could have bit us.
8. Refs killing flow and blowing calls

Very proud of the win today. This is the type of gritty and grinding game that improves a locker room. Serh continues getting better. Our D kept us in the game. IJ continues to grip his role as the new spark plug. His D has really cranked up last 2 games. I saw Q actually taking the next step in being a leader. He was much more vocal to Stapleton and Sleep P....both of their chilli runs hot at times. He was there to calm them, along with IJ.

These suddle improvements are things that we didn't have 3 games ago. The maturation is a thing of beauty and the chemical balance is beginning to produce more energy... All things that had to happen if this team wants to take the next step. Safe to say we are out of the crawling stage. Again, a great win in the face of so many adversities. Onward, march.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Well he drop crap burgers pretty much every game, not just 1 or 2, 15 games into his career. And 1 good game doesn't mean he's a different player. I hope it does and I hope he plays this way every game, maybe grab a few more boards. But it's absolutely fair to criticize terrible play.

The flip side is you have to praise high play, which is what I've done.

I guess it is fair to criticize crappy posters as well.** #msufansfullofsuck

 

[mstateglfr]

Which is why you don't say a player sucks 10 games into his career when he drops a crapburger or two...

Fully agree. It would be absurd to say a player sucks 10 games into their freshman year.

 

[mstateglfr]

Well he drop crap burgers pretty much every game, not just 1 or 2, 15 games into his career. And 1 good game doesn't mean he's a different player. I hope it does and I hope he plays this way every game, maybe grab a few more boards. But it's absolutely fair to criticize terrible play.

The flip side is you have to praise high play, which is what I've done.

Man, the expectations some have are just so far beyond realistic sometimes.
He has steadily improved, and the last 8 games are mjch better than the earlier balance of the season.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

I know I've had my history with bad posters:

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Some folks critique what they actually see, me. Some folks report on what they may see, you. It's a realist vs a dreamer. Reporter vs a beat writer. Nothing wrong with either. And in this case, both of our assessments have been true. Our players suck when they have sucked. Some folks call it out. It doesn't mean some folks on here are of the dumbass, it just means we report what is happening, not what may happen.

Its ok if you stick with your drum beat of, we are young. You are 100 percent correct. It's ok if you say "we will get better" that too, 100% correct...I mean after watching us vs Bama, how could we play worse? We sucked even in most of our wins prior. We just did, sorry. Something obviously happened after that game that brought us closer together. It's night and day...but to keep making sideways smile remarks every chance you get, you my dude, come off looking like a bully. Do you need a hug? A coke? Posters on here, including myself, knew the potential and couldn't understand how it wasnt clicking better. Everything I've mentioned about our play, leading up to this point has been what has happened, not futuristic put downs. So without further ado* here is my take of today:

Today was our best win of the year for a number of reasons but winning over adversity is the most impressive.

1. Sleepy losing his father
2. Q not scoring a point in the 1st half.
3. Not scoring the first 8 minutes and down 10-0
4. Terribly out manned underneath
5. Foul Trouble
6. Keg having another off night
7. Late turnovers that could have bit us.
8. Refs killing flow and blowing calls

Very proud of the win today. This is the type of gritty and grinding game that improves a locker room. Serh continues getting better. Our D kept us in the game. IJ continues to grip his role as the new spark plug. His D has really cranked up last 2 games. I saw Q actually taking the next step in being a leader. He was much more vocal to Stapleton and Sleep P....both of thier chilli runs hot at times. He was thier to calm them, along with IJ.

These suddle improvements are things that we didn't have 3 games ago. The maturation is a thing of beauty and the chemical balance is beginning to produce more energy... All things that had to happen if this team wants to take the next step. Safe to say we are out of the crawling stage. Again, a great win in the face of so many adversities. Onward, march.

Well said.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I know I've had my history with bad posters:

That was uncalled for dude, stop it!

 

[Lettucexxxx]

 

[engie]

Ahh... so maturation is a good thing now -- but it was impossible 10 days ago. Maybe in year 3**.

it never ceases to amaze me how many of you 17ers won't just own it when you have a ****, knee-jerk take on something. It's my fault for being right. You will downvote in anonymity and memorize for the next time I'm hilariously wrong about something. The irony being -- when it happens I'll just own it like I do -- and you won't.

 

[engie]

Good to know we can have a civil discussion****

He's been aweful all year, YOURE the dumbass for suggesting otherwise. 8 to 9 games? Are you ******* stupid? We've played 15 games... although there could have been a few games he didn't play because he was aweful for 15 games.

I understand his limited experience, and I hope he continues to improve. Doesn't negate his shortcomings so far.

"Engie, it's starting to look like you were right about Herard while I was menstruating about freshmen mistakes and a freshman loss" will suffice. But you'll deny ever holding the position just like the majority of the other anonymous pessimists that can't just own being wrong about something so I can move on and respect them going forward. Ask Patdog and mcdawg22 about Cohen -- that is literally all it takes to change my tone toward you. Own it.

Herard is going to be hell on wheels before he leaves here. Bookmark my post. You probably won't. Because it seems obvious and likely now -- after being the suck 10 days ago with no hope. Just like everyone always trusted Cohen to get things going despite the treasure trove of information on yuku from this very site that suggests otherwise.

 

[Shamoan]

Sounds like he played with moxy.

hate I missed this one. Congrats to howland for putting this one together and the team for executing.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Ahh... so maturation is a good thing now -- but it was impossible 10 days ago. Maybe in year 3**.

it never ceases to amaze me how many of you 17ers won't just own it when you have a ****, knee-jerk take on something. It's my fault for being right. You will downvote in anonymity and memorize for the next time I'm hilariously wrong about something. The irony being -- when it happens I'll just own it like I do -- and you won't.

I'm sure you were downvoted for the unwarranted insult, instead of simply making your point.

I'm not sure who isn't owning anything. I was definitely one of the guys crushing herard for his terrible play...but gave him big props for today's performance. Lettuce has been in full support of Howland and the team.

Think you're acting a little high strung with a little knee jerk reaction yourself. Take a chill pill.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

"Engie, it's starting to look like you were right about Herard while I was menstruating about freshmen mistakes and a freshman loss" will suffice. But you'll deny ever holding the position just like the majority of the other bitches here that are downvoting a now obvious truth in anonymity -- that can't just own being wrong about something so I can move on and respect them going forward. That's literally all it takes.

Herard is going to be hell on wheels before he leaves here. Bookmark it. You probably won't. Because it seems likely -- after being the suck 10 days ago with no hope. Go ahead and skew it.

Are you serious? I've been vehemently defending howland and this team ALL SEASON, or you referring only to herard? And just this thread and others propping up herard and would gladly eat crow if he turns into a great or even good player.

But 1 game is not a trend, like I said, I hope it does indeed become a trend. But I still don't 100% trust him yet.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

I just report it like it is, not like it may be. When it happens, I comment about it. I'm an eternal realest when it comes to MSU. You are the eternal optimist. Your takes have more to do with you proving points, mostly your own. Self agenda. Mine have more to do with reporting what I'm currently seeing and critiquing what I think is best for MSU. Neither one of our takes are wrong, just different objections. No reason to get ugly or ornery. And if I'm wrong, I will certainly own up to it, as my internet cred means about as much to me as the **** I took this morning. I just enjoy reading different takes without name calling and playdough fights.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

I just report it like it is, not like it may be. When it happens, I comment about it. I'm an eternal realest when it comes to MSU. You are the eternal optimist. Your takes have more to do with you proving points, mostly your own. Self agenda. Mine have more to do with reporting what I'm currently seeing and critiquing what I think is best for MSU. Neither one of our takes are wrong, just different objections. No reason to get ugly or ornery. And if I'm wrong, I will certainly own up to it, as my internet cred means about as much to me as the **** I took this morning. I just enjoy reading different takes without name calling and playdough fights.

Dude similar to C34 in many ways...difference is C34 tries to be right about all the negative **** and spins facts his way...engie tries to be right about all the positive **** and spins facts his way lol

 

[MaroonNation]

The Haitian Sensation™

/stolen from twitter.
//TM so Mizzou can't use.

Fixed it for you.