Random thought of the day

aTotal360

Heisman
Nov 12, 2009
22,663
16,672
113
For some reason I looked up Eric Crouch's stats the year he won the Heisman (2001). How in the hell did he win? I guess the 1000+ rushing yards from a QB was mind blowing 15 years ago. Fitz just had 700 more passing yards and more rushing yards. Not to mention 7 more TD accounted for.

PassingRushing
YEARCMPATTCMP%YDSTDINTATTYDSAVGTD
1997Redshirt
19984910148.560144964594.85
19998316051.91,269741808894.916
20007515648.11,1011171699715.720
200110518955.61,5107102031,1155.518
Totals31260651.54,48129256483,4345.359


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TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
Wow those stats aren't that impressive in today's world

For some reason I looked up Eric Crouch's stats the year he won the Heisman (2001). How in the hell did he win? I guess the 1000+ rushing yards from a QB was mind blowing 15 years ago. Fitz just had 700 more passing yards and more rushing yards. Not to mention 7 more TD accounted for.

PassingRushing
YEARCMPATTCMP%YDSTDINTATTYDSAVGTD
1997Redshirt
19984910148.560144964594.85
19998316051.91,269741808894.916
20007515648.11,1011171699715.720
200110518955.61,5107102031,1155.518
Totals31260651.54,48129256483,4345.359

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I'm sure it helped his team was undefeated.
 

Faustdog

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
4,200
2,771
113
It's just a different time. Go back and look at stats for guys like Joe Namath and Archie Manning if you want to see more average looking stats.
 

Wizard.sixpack

Freshman
Sep 15, 2009
6,511
58
48
They were 11-0 and lost last regular scheduled game of year and lost in the Rose Bowl. They were ranked in the top 5 all year. This helped his chances immensely.
 

MSUDC11

Redshirt
Aug 23, 2012
7,316
0
0
Nebraska in 2001 was also the least deserving national title game participant EVER.

Lost by 26 to Colorado in their last regular season game, which also meant that Colorado won their division.

Nebraska didn't even win their own division, much less their own conference. Somehow the BCS still had them at No. 2. So no surprise that Miami absolutely massacred them in the national title game.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

All-Conference
May 28, 2007
18,207
4,353
113
It was an extremely weak Heisman class that year. The Heisman rankings were:
1. Eric Crouch
2. Rex Grossman (How he stayed in the NFL as long as he did baffles me)
3. Ken Dorsey
4. Joey Harrington
5. David Carr

The real question is how did Jason White beat out Larry Fitzgerald two years later. Actually, I think we know the answer, and it's the same reason why Crouch won: Big 12 defenses make a slightly better than average quarterback look like Joe Montana.
 

FlotownDawg

All-American
Aug 30, 2012
7,381
8,458
113
Grossman should've won the Heisman that year

His stats were off the charts. The only reason he didn't is because he was a sophomore, and Crouch was a senior, and at that time, there was a stigma to giving the award to an underclassman. It took a never before seen type of season from Tim Tebow for a sophomore to win the Heisman and break that stigma. If Grossman was a junior or a senior then he would have won the Heisman that year instead of Crouch.
 

Hoover Dawg

Redshirt
May 16, 2016
1,584
0
0
I always thought Oregon should have gotten their spot but that's sheep talk really, I can't kill them for taking Nebraska. Nebraska had the same record and Pac-10 didn't have a chip game back then, so unfortunately the fact that Nebraska lost so late was why people cut up, and that it was like 62-20 or something.
 
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thf24

Redshirt
Jan 28, 2011
1,334
3
38
I'm sure it helped his team was undefeated.

It's always discouraging to me how the Heisman rules say specifically the award is to be independent of the player's team's record and achievements, yet that's almost always a primary factor in who's in consideration and ultimately wins.
 

MSUDC11

Redshirt
Aug 23, 2012
7,316
0
0
Would love to see a game between 2000-2002 Miami and present day Alabama.

That 2001 team had just an outrageous amount of talent. Lots of guys that ended up being really good in the NFL.

17 first round draft picks and 38 drafted overall. That's just insane.
 
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