Less with More Dean Smith or John Calipari

Beach_Cat

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I used to argue with UNC fans that Dean Smith was one of the biggest failures of all times. Elite generational player after player and only two titles. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, coaching or what that kept him from winning more.

Is it possible John Calipari is worse?
 

philstat

Heisman
Jan 3, 2004
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I used to argue with UNC fans that Dean Smith was one of the biggest failures of all times. Elite generational player after player and only two titles. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, coaching or what that kept him from winning more.

Is it possible John Calipari is worse?
Dean Smith dropped down the toilet more than Cal will ever know about basketball.
 

TopCatCal

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I used to argue with UNC fans that Dean Smith was one of the biggest failures of all times. Elite generational player after player and only two titles. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, coaching or what that kept him from winning more.

Is it possible John Calipari is worse?
YES John Calipari is worse. I know Dean Smith squandered a lot of talent. But his teams after his first 4 or 5 years at UNC was always good. His teams made the NCAA tournament his last 23 years in a row. And some of these years was when the NCAA tournament had only 48 teams. Calipari has had 2 of his UK teams miss the tournament altogether in the last 11 seasons.
 

saxonburgcat

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I used to argue with UNC fans that Dean Smith was one of the biggest failures of all times. Elite generational player after player and only two titles. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, coaching or what that kept him from winning more.

Is it possible John Calipari is worse?

I read an article in which Dean Smith said that he would have won more titles if he had not relaxed and enjoyed just making the FF.

Imagine if JC said that!?? UK fans would be burning him in effigy.

Also imagine if we found out that UK was running a diploma mill for the basketball program and providing all kinds of extra benefits and the whole university was covering it up!

2 titles, massive cheating, and great talent for 3 or 4 years, and he only won 2 titles! Smith is definitely still the king of failure.
 

Trinity45

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I used to argue with UNC fans that Dean Smith was one of the biggest failures of all times. Elite generational player after player and only two titles. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, coaching or what that kept him from winning more.

Is it possible John Calipari is worse?
Sad to say but Smith was a better coach overall.
 

ukjenning44

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Calipari will gone down as the worst because he will end his career with a SINGLE National Championship. He won’t make another FF either.
Hell, he can’t even win a basketball championship in a football conference anymore.
Dean was never as bad as what Cal has been for nearly a decade now.
 

chroix

Heisman
Jul 22, 2013
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More parity now than ever as well as the fact that Smith had juniors and seniors as noted by many above.
 
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TeoJ

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Calipari will gone down as the worst because he will end his career with a SINGLE National Championship. He won’t make another FF either.
Hell, he can’t even win a basketball championship in a football conference anymore.
Dean was never as bad as what Cal has been for nearly a decade now.
How many did St Dean win with arguably the greatest player ever Michael Jordan, James Worthy and Sam Perkins for three years?
 

wildcat111

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I used to argue with UNC fans that Dean Smith was one of the biggest failures of all times. Elite generational player after player and only two titles. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, coaching or what that kept him from winning more.

Is it possible John Calipari is worse?
Duh, YES.
 

otis-gip

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If Cal kept his players four years he would have more titles.
Maybe we should consider that most of Cal's players never would come to UK, if they were going to have to stay more than a year. Cal promises that he can get them on the fast track to the NBA.
The seed is planted for one and done before they ever play a college game.

Dean Smith was from a different era when players rarely left school early. If you wanted to be drafted back then you had to build a career in college first. I wish it was still that way. Watching the Cats back in the 70's and 80's was so much better than it is today.
 

littlecreek

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Just look how Smith won his 2 titles. The first one in 82 one of Georgetown’s players threw the ball to Worthy thinking that he was one of his own teammates. It was unforced and on the last possession. Who knows if they would have scored or not if they had gotten a shot. It was more of them throwing it away than UNCheats winning it. The second in 93 was the infamous Webber calling a timeout when they didn’t have any left. Who knows if Michigan would have scored or not on their last possession to win it. That game was more about Michigan blowing it than UNCheats winning it. However, Smith still had UNCheats contending for titles at the end of his career, while now Cal is not for Kentucky.