Class Numbers

msudawg200

Junior
Feb 1, 2012
574
337
63
How many are we expecting to sign this year?

Reason I ask is for all the excitement over our JUCO signings (and rightfully so), we still only have 13 HS guys committed. With 9 JUCOs signed and a possible 10th, we'll have to sign 28-30 total to really have close to a "full" freshman class.
 

StatesboroBlues

All-Conference
Aug 23, 2012
1,525
1,461
113
How many are we expecting to sign this year?

Reason I ask is for all the excitement over our JUCO signings (and rightfully so), we still only have 13 HS guys committed. With 9 JUCOs signed and a possible 10th, we'll have to sign 28-30 total to really have close to a "full" freshman class.

I am thinking 30 minimum...up to 32 if I am not mistaken. We will have the scholarships available and we can count 7 back.

Someone correct me if I am wrong...
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
30 is what I hear. We'll take a chance on some best available guys at the end. Conner Estes is an OT who's committed to a smaller school either USM or La Tech but wants an offer.

We're at 22 now. We can add:

23. Pierce, TE/WR
24. Guidry, WR
25. Gay, LB
26-30: Best available OL, DB and WR
 

dickiedawg

All-Conference
Feb 22, 2008
4,605
1,576
113
Paul has said 7 will count back but I could have sworn I saw Steve say 8, maybe during the GPTV segment they did.

I can't see us taking 32 unless there are 32 we really feel the need to take, though.
 

engie

Sophomore
May 29, 2011
10,764
106
63
The math on figuring an actual countback number will make your head spin, since it's a multi-year deal. It's not a one year reset. Basically to find the true number you have to go back to the last time you signed a full class and work forward counting the EEs and carrying over the spare slots.

Those 3 named get us to 25 -- I see us taking 28ish. Mullen never goes all in at the end trying to max out unless some unexpected elite guys swim to the boat. Most likely to save 4-5 slots as countbacks for next year. I think the last time we purely filled up was 2012(which coincidentally was the last time OM was in complete disarray).

Keep in mind -- we have about 62 returning scholarship players as of right now. Taking 28 will put us at 90 and is IMO about the perfect setup for attrition(5 guys -- I've been on Mullen for undersigning in previous classes). I think we lose a good one RB, a couple WRs being passed by young guys, a TE, and a couple of DBs that get bunny hopped in the spring.

Also keep in mind -- we need to keep a couple of these countbacks to semi balance classes. If we make it through next season with 83-84, we only have Cleveland, Giles, Rankin, Thomas, Dez, Cooke, Durr, Graham, Grey, Grey, Miles, and Jung graduating. 12 scholarship seniors. So, although we would have room to sign 30 more in the c/o 2018 -- against the 85 -- we'd only have 15 or so spots. This is one thing I wish Mullen would do better. Forced attrition to balance the classes.
 

msudawg200

Junior
Feb 1, 2012
574
337
63
Keep in mind -- we have about 62 returning scholarship players as of right now. Taking 28 will put us at 90 and is IMO about the perfect setup for attrition(5 guys -- I've been on Mullen for undersigning in previous classes). I think we lose a good one RB, a couple WRs being passed by young guys, a TE, and a couple of DBs that get bunny hopped in the spring.

Also keep in mind -- we need to keep a couple of these countbacks to semi balance classes. If we make it through next season with 83-84, we only have Cleveland, Giles, Rankin, Thomas, Dez, Cooke, Durr, Graham, Grey, Grey, Miles, and Jung graduating. 12 scholarship seniors. So, although we would have room to sign 30 more in the c/o 2018 -- against the 85 -- we'd only have 15 or so spots. This is one thing I wish Mullen would do better. Forced attrition to balance the classes.

Good info. This is my biggest concern with signing 9-11 JUCOs. It will leave us with an average or below average size HS class this year and almost assuredly a small one next year. I know we have some needs, but I wonder if we should have tried to limit it to 7 or so in case we sign Guidry and/or Pierce. Either way, we'll see how it pans out.
 

StatesboroBlues

All-Conference
Aug 23, 2012
1,525
1,461
113
The math on figuring an actual countback number will make your head spin, since it's a multi-year deal. It's not a one year reset. Basically to find the true number you have to go back to the last time you signed a full class and work forward counting the EEs and carrying over the spare slots.

Those 3 named get us to 25 -- I see us taking 28ish. Mullen never goes all in at the end trying to max out unless some unexpected elite guys swim to the boat. Most likely to save 4-5 slots as countbacks for next year. I think the last time we purely filled up was 2012(which coincidentally was the last time OM was in complete disarray).

Keep in mind -- we have about 62 returning scholarship players as of right now. Taking 28 will put us at 90 and is IMO about the perfect setup for attrition(5 guys -- I've been on Mullen for undersigning in previous classes). I think we lose a good one RB, a couple WRs being passed by young guys, a TE, and a couple of DBs that get bunny hopped in the spring.

Also keep in mind -- we need to keep a couple of these countbacks to semi balance classes. If we make it through next season with 83-84, we only have Cleveland, Giles, Rankin, Thomas, Dez, Cooke, Durr, Graham, Grey, Grey, Miles, and Jung graduating. 12 scholarship seniors. So, although we would have room to sign 30 more in the c/o 2018 -- against the 85 -- we'd only have 15 or so spots. This is one thing I wish Mullen would do better. Forced attrition to balance the classes.

I think we start seeing the attrition this year and hopefully from this point forward. Our guys obviously enjoy their time here because we have had very little over the years...hate to see it but it is necessary at times. Especially when trying to balance the classes like you mentioned.
 

Go Budaw

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
7,321
0
36
30 is what I hear. We'll take a chance on some best available guys at the end. Conner Estes is an OT who's committed to a smaller school either USM or La Tech but wants an offer.

We're at 22 now. We can add:

23. Pierce, TE/WR
24. Guidry, WR
25. Gay, LB
26-30: Best available OL, DB and WR

I think we also may look at taking another QB in the mold of a Damian Williams (fringe prospect that is committed to a smaller school, maybe a game manager type) just for depth. This would also help us keep the redshirt on Key if something happened to Fitz. I'm sure we told Key he'd be the only QB in the class, but we've had 3 QB's transfer since he committed so I'm sure he'd understand.
 
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