We are trending down...according to SDS

[TheStateUofMS]

MISSISSIPPI STATE: A dominant victory over Ole Miss helped the Bulldogs end the season on a high note, but there is still plenty of work to be done for Dan Mullen.
A defense-heavy recruiting class should help Mississippi State add some depth on that side of the ball, but this disappointing season is hard to overlook.
Trending: Down

Reminds me when Comey laid out the evidence against Hillary and decided not to recommend a criminal referral to the DOJ. No mention of Fitz either. We're screwed!!!**

 

[BossDawg78]

I cannot think of a year when we were trending "up". They will always scratch, claw and dig looking for any reason NOT to be optimistic at all about State.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

SDS. Slander Disseminating Sumbitches

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

SDS is garbage BUT

MISSISSIPPI STATE: A dominant victory over Ole Miss helped the Bulldogs end the season on a high note, but there is still plenty of work to be done for Dan Mullen.
A defense-heavy recruiting class should help Mississippi State add some depth on that side of the ball, but this disappointing season is hard to overlook.
Trending: Down

2 years removed from playoff contention we are 5-7 and facing a tough schedule in 2017 (at least 2 home losses in Bama and LSU, trading USCe for UGA). That's certainly not trending up.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

SDS is garbage.

 

[Drebin]

2 years removed from playoff contention we are 5-7 and facing a tough schedule in 2017 (at least 2 home losses in Bama and LSU, trading USCe for UGA). That's certainly not trending up.

With the SEC's leading offensive QB returning along with a solid run game and an improved defense.

We will be better next year. Even if we just go 6-6, that's trending up from this season. I don't know how you call LSU a certain loss....we should have beaten them this year. Does Coach O frighten you?

 

[Dawgs'n'Grizz]

2 years removed from playoff contention we are 5-7 and facing a tough schedule in 2017 (at least 2 home losses in Bama and LSU, trading USCe for UGA). That's certainly not trending up.

That LSU game next year is nowhere close to being a "for sure" loss. UGA might be better, but it's definitely a game we can win. I think we at least get back to 7-8 wins next year and could win more than that if our defense makes some strides. That would be trending up

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Does Coach O frighten you?

We haven't beaten LSU in Starkville in the last nine tries. Seems like a safe bet.

ETA: 1-15 this century against them overall. But somehow, every year we have folks on here saying, "I wouldn't call that LSU game just yet."

 

[00Dawg]

Yeah, 6 wins is the floor for me next year. That's 4 OOC, UK in Starkville, plus the Egg Bowl. There's possible toss-ups as well with hosting LSU, visiting UGA, and visiting TAMU close to their annual meltdown. We just won't know about those until we get closer.
I'd love to include Arkansas as well given how Mullen has owned them in the recent past, but that last beat down makes me nervous.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

There's possible toss-ups as well with hosting LSU

A toss-up? What kind of coin are you using?

 

[aTotal360]

We'll easily be better next year. And that's not my maroon showing. I'm not saying we'll be SECW champs, but we'll win at least 2-3 more regular season games next year.

Are they implying we will only win 4 games next year?

 

[Drebin]

We haven't beaten LSU in Starkville in the last nine tries. Seems like a safe bet.

ETA: 1-15 this century against them overall. But somehow, every year we have folks on here saying, "I wouldn't call that LSU game just yet."

The last 15 years have nothing to do with what happens next year.

Before 2015, we had NEVER won in Fayetteville, for example. I guess that had to change at some point.

We won in Baton Rouge in 2014, despite the fact that we had lost the last what, 14 straight?

Should have beaten them last year at their place, despite playing like ****.

 

[Dawgs'n'Grizz]

A toss-up? What kind of coin are you using?

1-2 the last three years against LSU and those games have been decided by a total of 10 points. It seems like those games are a better indicator of what next year could be like as opposed to comparing how we've done over the last 16 years. I'm not saying we're going to win that game, but it's certainly not a guaranteed loss.

 

[patdog]

Without giving that site a click, all I know is I'm ok with the direction our program is going. And that's not trending down.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Before 2015, we had NEVER won in Fayetteville, for example. I guess that had to change at some point.

Ha! Probably because we play them in Little Rock so frequently.

I'm not really sure what you're implying here. The series record (let's just say 1-7 because that's Mullen's record vs. LSU) doesn't mean anything but the score of one game two years ago does? Nick Saban and Alabama have lost more recently in Starkville than LSU, let that sink in.

The odd year schedule means two losses at home (LSU & Bama). We will not be favored over UGA. Plus Auburn looks like they might be pretty feisty next year and that's another tough game. So that's four likely losses, two of which are home. We can still have a decent season but in odd years it's an uphill battle. Got to win all four OOC and UK (which would be turning 3 Ls from this year into Ws including beating a decent BYU team). Win at least one of A&M, OM, Arkansas. That's our path to another bowl and a decent year. But LSU is a loss. Saying it's not is the maroon colored glasses talking

 

[engie]

^ The guy who says our history doesn't mean anything -- until he needs it in attempt to make a point.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

^ The guy who says our history doesn't mean anything -- until he needs it in attempt to make a point.

I'm sure you've got it saved on your list of posts and scores to settle so I'll bite, go ahead and show me where I said our history doesn't mean anything.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

We have to fix the OL, and defense will have to mightily improve. I recognize another year of maturing will help the defense. JUCOs will have to step up for the OL. I am not counting on it. 6-6 is probably best case. I figure we will be looking forward to LSU when we go to Ruston, I don't need to remind anyone what can happen there. They were good this year too. LSU is a must win, and you have to think at Georgia and Auburn are losses. BYU and Kentucky are must wins. I won't call Texas A&M on the road a win until we do it. I see no way we beat Arkansas up there and we theoretically should beat Ole Miss at home but they said that this year too.

Screw around in Ruston and this gets ugly quick. 1-5 staring you in the face, then you're fighting like hell to get to 5-7 again. I always thought Mullen was above losing to the lower level teams like that until shorts. No longer take that for granted.

 

[coach66]

I thought the OL was playing pretty well the last half of the year.

nm

 

[patdog]

Yeah. Pretty sure the last 3 years of Jackie and the Croom years won't have any bearing on the 2017 MSU-LSU game. It'll be a tough game for sure, but it's nowhere near a sure loss.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

1-2 the last three years against LSU

What confuses me is that several posters seem to think UK (1-7 against Mullen) is an almost guaranteed win, but LSU (7-1 against Mullen) is a toss-up.

 

[Shooter McGavin.sixpack]

Would we still be trending down if Graves makes a gimme fg against USA and we don't use the prevent us from winning defense on UK's final drive?

Like others have said, SDS is pure garbage. Any nuanced analysis is beyond their comprehension.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

MISSISSIPPI STATE: A dominant victory over Ole Miss helped the Bulldogs end the season on a high note, but there is still plenty of work to be done for Dan Mullen.
A defense-heavy recruiting class should help Mississippi State add some depth on that side of the ball, but this disappointing season is hard to overlook.
Trending: Down

Reminds me when Comey laid out the evidence against Hillary and decided not to recommend a criminal referral to the DOJ. No mention of Fitz either. We're screwed!!!**

The level of stupid here is...

17ing high!

 

[maroonmania]

That LSU game next year is nowhere close to being a "for sure" loss. UGA might be better, but it's definitely a game we can win. I think we at least get back to 7-8 wins next year and could win more than that if our defense makes some strides. That would be trending up

Exactly, LSU is a "probable" loss but the only "for sure" loss is Bama. Heck, in our last 3 games against LSU we've got a win, a game that we lost because our FG kicker couldn't make a 47 yarder to win and a loss by 3 points where we got the ball back with a chance to drive and win the game but didn't do it. We've shown plenty of ability to beat LSU under Mullen, however we've shown no ability to beat a Saban coached Bama team under Mullen.

 

[dawgstudent]

I thought the OL even played well against Bama.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

We haven't beaten LSU in Starkville in the last nine tries. Seems like a safe bet.

ETA: 1-15 this century against them overall. But somehow, every year we have folks on here saying, "I wouldn't call that LSU game just yet."

So there's no hope ever in beating LSU at home again?


Kaaaayyyyy...

 

[coach66]

Yeah, Fitz survived*

nm

 

[patdog]

Because MSU-UK > LSU-MSU in most years. Also, LSU most likely just downgraded at head coach.

 

[shotgunDawg]

So SDS says we are trending down on the same day Sallee says we could compete in the West next year?

Hmmm, odd day for sure.

Here is the article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...c-coaching-regressed-as-nick-saban-has-rolled

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Fred Ross catches a TD pass or Graves hits a gimme FG @ BYU

 

[RocketDawg]

So SDS says we are trending down on the same day Sallee says we could compete in the West next year?

Hmmm, odd day for sure.

Here is the article

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...c-coaching-regressed-as-nick-saban-has-rolled

Aren't we already down about as far as we can be reasonably expected to go this past season? That means the only possible trends are to stay the same and up.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Because MSU-UK > LSU-MSU in most years.

Our average margin of victory in eight games against UK is 10.375

LSU's average margin of victory in eight games against us is 11.5

That seems pretty close to me.

 

[patdog]

Cumulative scores last 3 years: MSU - 125, UK - 87 and MSU - 73, LSU - 73.

 

[dawgstudent]

Specifically run blocking. If I remember correctly, we were getting some push. We just missed some throws but I do agree pass blocking was horrendous.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Cumulative scores last 3 years: MSU - 125, UK - 87 and MSU - 73, LSU - 73.

Why stop at three?

Four year cumulative score: MSU 153, UK 109 (44 pt. difference); LSU 132, MSU 99 (33 pt. difference)
Five year cumulative score: MSU 180, UK 123 (57 pt. difference); LSU 169, MSU 116 (53 pt. difference)

These two series are very similar. Why try to act like they're not?

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Remember that we lost 3 of those guys. Plus another backup.

 

[Dawgs'n'Grizz]

Why stop at three?


These two series are very similar. Why try to act like they're not?

It seems like you're arguing that LSU is a guaranteed loss and that UK is a toss-up game? If I'm right on this assumption, then your logic doesn't make sense. If these two series are so similar (just in opposite directions), then LSU would be a guaranteed loss and UK would be a guaranteed win OR both games would be toss-ups. I would argue that both games are closer to toss-ups next year. I'm basing this on what I know each team has returning. Previous year results really don't mean anything.

For example:

2013: LSU wins in Starkville by 33
2014: State wins in Baton Rouge by 5

A lot can happen in one year

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Agree DS. We were getting about 3yds a rush when normally we get literally 0 vs Bama. I would have ran it all day and tried to convert 3rd and short all day.

I think Aries had 11 carries for 55yds.

Stick with a more heavy run and hit the deep shots and we could have been competitive....

AND

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.