The Smoking Gun up north

DawgAmerica

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Much of the rhetoric from the northerners centers around how could these players with immunity from other schools end up somewhere else if they were supposedly offered $$ to sign with tsun. Their point being that the players must have received more $$ to sign at their current school. This is NOT what is going to take tsun down. If tsun gets hit with cash inducements it’s not going be pay-to-sign, it’s going to be the long rumored pay-to-visit program.

Think about it - this is much easier to prove and the NCAA easily could have very similar stories from multiple players who signed with other schools. There are players who were never seriously considering tsun who may have been offered the cash just to visit and took it, and maybe even documented it. Now with the immunity agreement, they can talk and potentially provide corroborating evidence without impacting their eligibility and with NO implication to their current school. If different players from different schools can provide the NCAA with similar stories and verifiable information and evidence then you have the smoking gun. And if that smoking gun was in the hands of an athletic department employee, then boom goes the dynamite.
 

engie

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Cash to visit is your smoking gun out of everything that has already happened and been documented?

One thing I see constantly talked about ---- Individual players are granted immunity. This does not grant immunity to the institutions that they actually signed with.

I've been saying it for nearing 4 years now -- the NCAA is going after Freeze and LOIC -- and I will be very surprised if they don't get both.
 

mount lefroy

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Much of the rhetoric from the northerners centers around how could these players with immunity from other schools end up somewhere else if they were supposedly offered $$ to sign with tsun. Their point being that the players must have received more $$ to sign at their current school. This is NOT what is going to take tsun down. If tsun gets hit with cash inducements it’s not going be pay-to-sign, it’s going to be the long rumored pay-to-visit program.

Think about it - this is much easier to prove and the NCAA easily could have very similar stories from multiple players who signed with other schools. There are players who were never seriously considering tsun who may have been offered the cash just to visit and took it, and maybe even documented it. Now with the immunity agreement, they can talk and potentially provide corroborating evidence without impacting their eligibility and with NO implication to their current school. If different players from different schools can provide the NCAA with similar stories and verifiable information and evidence then you have the smoking gun. And if that smoking gun was in the hands of an athletic department employee, then boom goes the dynamite.

Precedent= cam newton = ncaa doesnt make that assumption or auburn would have been nailed.

Nice try for them but the argument "everybody does it" no matter how many latin legal terms follow it does not fly.
 

patdog

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One thing I see constantly talked about ---- Individual players are granted immunity. This does not grant immunity to the institutions that they actually signed with.
These people don't understand how immunity in exchange for information works. The NCAA knows that if they ever go after the school for something a player told them in an immunity interview, that would be the end of their immunity program. Not to mention that the NCAA wasn't even asking them anything about their current school, they were only asking them about one school, the one they are investigating.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Same thing happened to UT basketball

One thing I see constantly talked about ---- Individual players are granted immunity. This does not grant immunity to the institutions that they actually signed with.

I believe. Some recruit was granted immunity to rat on Pearl and UT. He had signed with Ohio state. OSU did not get in trouble.
 
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