LOCKED: A Little PSA For Tomorrow

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AssEndDawg

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Why she allowed to run is the only thing I don't understand. Apparently laws are only meant for other people. The depth of corruption in our government has been brought to light. Its no longer a conspiracy theory.
I'm no Clinton supporter but I have yet to hear of a law she broke. No doubt there is some shady **** going on, but a straight up law broken has yet to be demonstrated.
 

johnson86-1

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The joy of being a straight white christian male, am I right?

Because straight white christian males don't want to bear arms? Or participate in political speech? Or make claims under RFRA? Or avoid being penalized for their employees seeking subsidies in the health insurance market?

Regardless of what sexuality, race, and gender someone is, if they don't know how the supreme court decisions impact them, that's just because they aren't paying attention. Which is fine; it's rational to stay ignorant as long as the government is reasonably restrained and non-corrupt. But they shouldn't think that them not knowing why it matters is the same thing as it not mattering.
 

mstateglfr

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This sounds like a talking point from MSNBC.

The Mexicans are only one group of people. How about the rest of the South Americans, Middle Easterners and Asians. What do the statistics say about them? Cherry picking with Mexicans is not a great sample.

How many Asians are estimated to be illegally coming to the US? And furthermore, how many of those are estimated to be coming thru our Southern border? I didnt even realize an illegal Asian immigrant problem existed...
 

mstateglfr

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My family didn`t come to this country to terrorize or harm anyone.

How many families are coming to this country to terrorize or harm people? What research is there to show closed borders would stop the incredibly few people over the last however decade+ who have come to the US to terrorize and harm?
There is always tourism...
 

Sutterkane

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She can nominate all she wants. There have been presidents to nominate justices that never got one to the actual bench.
 

mstateglfr

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1) I would just like to know who is entering our country. 2) If people are coming to work and better themselves bring them on.....if they`re coming to get on the government teet I don`t think we can afford them now. 3) As far as your final condescending last paragraph....go 17 yourself....it was un-called for.

I dont want people to come to the US with the sole intent of being a financial burden. What % of immigrants do you estimate come here with the sole intent of living 'on the government teet'? Is this basically a total non-issue and fear/concern turned into an opinion, or is it based on actual statistics?
 

mstateglfr

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She can nominate all she wants. There have been presidents to nominate justices that never got one to the actual bench.

It would be a true shame if nominees(from whichever person is elected) arent confirmed just because congress is petty and unable to move the 17 on to get some governing done.
 

thatsbaseball

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I`ve had the opportunity and privilege to work with many Mexicans in the last several years. One of my two or three most trusted and beloved friends is a Mexican. If I die tomorrow he`ll be a pallbearer, we are very close. If I started a company today and needed good men that I could depend on to work hard...I would hire all Mexicans. I just want to vet everyone coming in to the best of our abilities to cull known criminals and extremist at all the borders and points of entry. If they want to come here, they should all be welcomed LEGALLY. And you are exactly right...my family came here to get by and ended up doing a little better. I hope we will always offer that opportunity to those who come here seeking a better life.
 

thatsbaseball

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Next Question.............

In September 2015, the Center for Immigration Studies published a landmark study of immigration and welfare use, showing that 51 percent of immigrant-headed households used at least one federal welfare program — cash, food, housing, or medical care — compared to 30 percent of native households. Following similar methodology, this new study examines the dollar cost of that welfare use.

  • The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.
  • The average immigrant household consumes 33 percent more cash welfare, 57 percent more food assistance, and 44 percent more Medicaid dollars than the average native household. Housing costs are about the same for both groups.
  • At $8,251, households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico have the highest welfare costs of any sending region — 86 percent higher than the costs of native households.
  • Illegal immigrant households cost an average of $5,692 (driven largely by the presence of U.S.-born children), while legal immigrant households cost $6,378.
  • The greater consumption of welfare dollars by immigrants can be explained in large part by their lower level of education and larger number of children compared to natives. Over 24 percent of immigrant households are headed by a high school dropout, compared to just 8 percent of native households. In addition, 13 percent of immigrant households have three or more children, vs. just 6 percent of native households.
 

mstateglfr

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In September 2015, the Center for Immigration Studies published a landmark study of immigration and welfare use, showing that 51 percent of immigrant-headed households used at least one federal welfare program — cash, food, housing, or medical care — compared to 30 percent of native households. Following similar methodology, this new study examines the dollar cost of that welfare use.

  • The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.
  • The average immigrant household consumes 33 percent more cash welfare, 57 percent more food assistance, and 44 percent more Medicaid dollars than the average native household. Housing costs are about the same for both groups.
  • At $8,251, households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico have the highest welfare costs of any sending region — 86 percent higher than the costs of native households.
  • Illegal immigrant households cost an average of $5,692 (driven largely by the presence of U.S.-born children), while legal immigrant households cost $6,378.
  • The greater consumption of welfare dollars by immigrants can be explained in large part by their lower level of education and larger number of children compared to natives. Over 24 percent of immigrant households are headed by a high school dropout, compared to just 8 percent of native households. In addition, 13 percent of immigrant households have three or more children, vs. just 6 percent of native households.

This doesnt answer anything. You made the accusation that there is some epidemic of people coming to the US to be on welfare. Your stats, while interesting, dont at all address intent. That, intent, is just kinda slightly important since its what you accused them of doing.

I wont argue that 1st generation immigrants utilize government programs more often or in a larger amount than established citizens. The utilization of government funds doesnt mean the immigrants came here with the intent to just suck on the government's teet.
 

thatsbaseball

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"2) If people are coming to work and better themselves bring them on.....if they`re coming to get on the government teet I don`t think we can afford them now."


Please point out "the accusation of some sort of epidemic"
 

ShrubDog

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How many Asians are estimated to be illegally coming to the US? And furthermore, how many of those are estimated to be coming thru our Southern border? I didnt even realize an illegal Asian immigrant problem existed...


Mexicans made up 52% of all unauthorized immigrants in 2014, though their numbers had been declining in recent years. There were 5.8 million Mexican unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. that year, down from 6.4 million in 2009, according to the latest Pew Research Center estimates. Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico grew by 325,000 since 2009, to an estimated 5.3 million in 2014. Populations went up most for unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America, but the number also ticked up for those from sub-Saharan Africa. Increases in the number of unauthorized immigrants from other countries mostly offset the decline in the number from Mexico.
 

AssEndDawg

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I`ve had the opportunity and privilege to work with many Mexicans in the last several years. One of my two or three most trusted and beloved friends is a Mexican. If I die tomorrow he`ll be a pallbearer, we are very close. If I started a company today and needed good men that I could depend on to work hard...I would hire all Mexicans. I just want to vet everyone coming in to the best of our abilities to cull known criminals and extremist at all the borders and points of entry. If they want to come here, they should all be welcomed LEGALLY. And you are exactly right...my family came here to get by and ended up doing a little better. I hope we will always offer that opportunity to those who come here seeking a better life.
Ok, so you have a "black friend"... again, where is this wave of terrorism coming over the border? It's made up. It's fake! do some people who come here commit crimes? Sure, but at a much lower rate than the American population as a whole. This is a non-issue! And what do we get out of it? We get pistachios, and wine and artichokes and all sorts of things that Americans won't work for themselves. Total non-issue.
 
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Name one justice that Clinton or Obama appointed that isn't a far left extremist

... waiting ...


The supreme court appointment argument is overblown. There's no way to insure that an appointee will be extremely conservative or extremely liberal or anywhere in between. A one issue llitmus test should never be used to elect a president of the United States, according to me anyway
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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I dont want people to come to the US with the sole intent of being a financial burden. What % of immigrants do you estimate come here with the sole intent of living 'on the government teet'? Is this basically a total non-issue and fear/concern turned into an opinion, or is it based on actual statistics?

Boy, you nailed him. I mean everyone knows there are no illegal aliens getting government benefits. Right?
 

The Riddler

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Is it shocking to anyone that the demographics in this country are shifting away from white majority? By 2050 whites will most likely not be the majority anymore in this nation and I don't see a problem with that. It's like earlier I pointed out that quite a large number of people on here use the word "thug" instead of well you know what other word they use to describe black people. Somehow that makes me a reverse racist is the response I got. Why because pointing it out is bad or is it the fact i understand what you really want to call us? Also the number of atheists is growing quickly as well or at least people that say they are in no way religious.
Don't look now but by 2050 we might be a minority majority country and we also may be a non religious nation.
As a minority I think it's hilarious when the white folks run around like chicken little when they hear this kind of news. Surprise soon there is going to be more of us than there is of you.
 

ShrubDog

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Tell the people of France and Germany how multiculturalism has helped their culture. The Islamic invasion tour has been popular. They will never be the same. Amercia was built on immigration but there has to be some type of process.

Saying open borders is OK makes no sense.
 

RocketDawg

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I'm no Clinton supporter but I have yet to hear of a law she broke. No doubt there is some shady **** going on, but a straight up law broken has yet to be demonstrated.

There are plenty of laws regarding national security (classified) information. And the latest thing is that she emailed classified things to her MAID to print for her. The maid had neither a security clearance or a need to know. And the latter is required regardless of your clearance.

That's why Petraeus faces a jail sentence, along with several other high ranking military officers.
 

RocketDawg

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I'm guessing most of the electorate didn't know about the secret conversation from 15 years ago where he said he fondled women. And I'm assuming he didn't expect those to come back up.

I'm sure he never really expected to be a viable candidate. And the only reason he is is that Hillary is so bad. This is the worst pair of candidates that I've ever seen. Both of their VP candidates are a lot better.
 

thatsbaseball

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If it`s a non issue then vetting these people will not inhibit anyone from coming and we`ll all be happy. We`re already paying the customs people to do this...why not let them earn their keep ?
 

Sutterkane

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I actually prefer the supreme court count to be even. Then at least it takes 2 people to decide a case versus one person always being the swing vote. It also upholds district court decisions better, which is in favor of local governance.

Congress is well within their power to not confirm supreme court justices. It's part of the checks and balances of our government.
 

mount lefroy

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Whoever is elected tomorrow I feel will only be a one term president. Both are so unpopular already, so give them four years in charge and their popularity rating will nosedive farther. All it will take is for a nice guy with little baggage (Paul Ryan?) to run and he'll win it by default.

Heard this about Clinton, Bush, and Obama. Could happen. Not predictable.
 

tbaydog

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Why she allowed to run is the only thing I don't understand. Apparently laws are only meant for other people. The depth of corruption in our government has been brought to light. Its no longer a conspiracy theory.


"White Privilege"
 

BulldogBlitz

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we are getting much closer to that day though when the country will be off the cliff.
 

mcdawg22

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It's funny. As soon as I read this I said, great sentiment but I bet the thread gets locked before the end of the day. Because people just can't help themselves. It's like watching a dog getting smacked by a cat, it's dumb as **** but he just has to stick his nose in it.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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It's like earlier I pointed out that quite a large number of people on here use the word "thug" instead of well you know what other word they use to describe black people.

Alright guys. PC police has shown up. From now on it's not Thug.. it's law abidingly challenged. Evidently PC police has made an executive decision to claim only one race can be a thug and is therefore offended simultaneously. Just like PC police are trained.. they are to be like the one guys ***** girlfriend that wants a salad when everyone else wants burgers. What happens? Everyone just eats at Newks to shut her *** up.

PC police demands your obedience. You must denounce your privlidge and turn out your pockets to deliver all contents to the govt to be distributed. You will obey or will be forcibly confined to a safe space.
 
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