Well I was wrong about today.

engie

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That's the thing about youth -- it grows as the season goes on -- and it's a long season.

I'm thinking pretty hard -- and can't remember anything you were actually right about.
 

Bulldogg31

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THEY'RE YOUNG! People have to earn playing time, learn from mistakes...get reps...every single playmaker except Ross is back for one or two more years.

2017 should be better but 2018 we will be fun to watch. Hang in there.
 
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Props for showing up dude.

To answer your question, I would say that we have a bunch of inexperienced players finally starting to make the plays.
 

The Riddler

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I must admit I was wrong about today as well. Awesome win made me feel like the Florida game when they were number one. I was a kid and he brought me and then helped me climb the fence onto the field after we beat them as number one.
At least I am pretty sure that Florida team was number one remember miller and walker going for like 150 each.
 
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Florida was #3 actually. But that's just splitting hairs---that 2000 game we figured out how to run the ball with Miller & Walker---and today we learned how to run the ball with A-Train & Nicky Fitz.

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BoDawg.sixpack

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I was wrong too, hell I'd go so far as to say that

anyone who really believed we were going to win today isn't a rational person if they had been paying attention to both teams this year.
 

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Not "calling for a win" doesn't mean people didn't see a break out coming. Check the pregame thread -- I'll be happy to bump it. Several of us said this was going to ~ 2013 @ aTm when the Dak era really took it's footing and that season turned.
 

yjnkdawg

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But where the hell has this team been all season up to this point?


I think the following: The offense bought into Fitz last week and supported him, and it carried over into practice and then into the win today. Mullen pretty much turned the defensive play calling over to Sirmon in this game, and the defense responded. Brian Johnson called about 50% of the plays and it gave Mullen the opportunity to manage the game more, but not micromanage.
 

engie

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It's possible to be irrational and end up being right. No argument there.

So -- thinking it could be similar to the 2013 game -- is irrational in your opinion? Some of us have been comparing the seasons since the preseason. And seem to be pretty spot on at this point. There is certainly an element that can be irrational positive -- but those people adopted Crimson many years ago.

In the MSU fanbase, there is irrational negative -- and the rest of us that fall somewhere in the middle.
 
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BoDawg.sixpack

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Thinking the season was going to turn on this game, yes. That was irrational against this aTm team in the year 2016. It was most likely going to be at best another loss however hard fought it was. Then followed by three more losses.
 

engie

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Thinking the season was going to turn on this game, yes. That was irrational against this aTm team in the year 2016. It was most likely going to be at best another "moral loss".

Well, I guess I'm an idiot that rolls snake eyes a whole helluva lot more often than I crap out. The season has been basically identical to 2013. People that say it hasn't -- do not remember 2013. And -- yes -- I called this game the turning point in the pregame.

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...st-game-and-closer-than-most-think-still-lose
 
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BoDawg.sixpack

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Turning point = we're going to win. Otherwise a four loss finish = turning point and we both know that's not what you meant.
 

engie

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Turning point = we're going to win. Otherwise a four loss finish = turning point and we both know that's not what you meant.
You are too dumb for my time if you are arguing semantics on something I was obviously right about.

Hint: The ATM game was the turning point in 2013.
Hint #2: We did not win.
 

engie

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Now you're getting angry Engie. It's time to take a deep breath and relax.

= Deflection when you forgot what really happened in 2013 and stuck your foot in your mouth in the discussion.

Seasons can only turn on wins and losses!1
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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We've already had close games and some record breaking individual performances. That's not going to be a "turning point" in anyone's mind but yours, especially if we finish 0-4 which was more likely. It's not a deflection as much as it is your inability to cover your own statements.
 

engie

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We've already had close games and some record breaking individual performances. That's not going to be a "turning point" in anyone's mind but yours, especially if we finish 0-4 which was more likely. It's not a deflection as much as it is your inability to cover your own statements.

Lol. You got me. I'm ineffectively covering my *** for being right again!11!

Turning point = when a "light bulb" seems to come on for a team -- regardless of a score -- that turns the perspective of a season and the future of a program. But I already know you don't comprehend the concept -- so I'm just spinning my wheels. If you did -- you would have caught it in the aTm reference from 2013.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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I think the best hindsight indicator of a light bulb coming on for a team that has lost the way we have so many times this season is to finish with a higher score. Ultimately that's the only turning point that matters.
 
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