Shea Patterson question

[Digging dog]

Was discussing with a friend and don't have the answer. If Shea has been redshirted and never played when the NCAA sanctions come down. Can he transfer and play or does he still have to sit a year.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Another question. Is the boy so dumb that this may come as a surprise to him ?

 

[coach66]

Not positive but I think he can transfer and play.

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[Strike.sixpack]

Players will still have sit a year unless the NCAA grants them transfer waivers. And sanctions do not automatically guarantee that players will get that. Case by case basis.

 

[coach66]

makes sense.

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[patdog]

In the past, the NCAA has generally allowed players to transfer and play immediately if they would be under a bowl ban for the rest of their career at a school. So a player like Patterson would have to sit out a year.

 

[Digging dog]

Thanks.

 

[tb5.sixpack]

Trollin, trollin, trollin

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you know good and well the answer to that.

that's why i don't get the big hoopla about Patterson redshirting. It has no effect on his future at OM or another school. You transfer, you are sitting out a year unless granted a special waver, but considering you guys are also saying that Shea is part of the investigation, it seems unlikely he would cause and issue and get a waver. You need to work on your story a little better.

Otherwise, troll on brother.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

you know good and well the answer to that.

that's why i don't get the big hoopla about Patterson redshirting. It has no effect on his future at OM or another school. You transfer, you are sitting out a year unless granted a special waver, but considering you guys are also saying that Shea is part of the investigation, it seems unlikely he would cause and issue and get a waver. You need to work on your story a little better.

Otherwise, troll on brother.

He could still be a part of the investigation, it's not mutually exclusive. He could also be "redshirting" because it was known he is ineligible for a period of time until the NCAA reinstates him. Or it's none of that. But there have been players who were named in an investigation and still got waiver to immediately transfer and play. Happened even to the SMU players

 

[tb5.sixpack]

First learn how to reply. Second, why would he not redshirt?

Do you really think he is going to taking playing time away from Chad Kelly? As bad as Kelly has been at times, no coach would make that change and if you aren't going to play him extensively then why would you burn a redshirt?

 

[coach66]

I've never said Shea was part of the investigation that I can remember.

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[Strike.sixpack]

Do you really think he is going to taking playing time away from Chad Kelly? As bad as Kelly has been at times, no coach would make that change and if you aren't going to play him extensively then why would you burn a redshirt?

First I quote you on my phone, can't help what order the site puts it in.

Secondly, You did read the third sentence right? It was all hypotheticals. You could be right but we don't know what all has been discussed behind the scenes. But you have to admit, if he is the heir apparent for next year why do you NOT play him this year to prepare him? A 5 star that has been promoted as the starter for next year and if he is as good as advertised is gone in 3 years, you redshirt a year? I don't know what is going on, if he transfers and sits a year he will still have 3 to play 3. Plenty of time. Logically I think that is what is being planned for. Him leaving after this season one way or another else he would be prepped and played this season to take over next year. But who knows

 

[johnson86-1]

Do you really think he is going to taking playing time away from Chad Kelly? As bad as Kelly has been at times, no coach would make that change and if you aren't going to play him extensively then why would you burn a redshirt?

Already answered by Strike, but if you think he's an NFL player, and you think you'll be decent to good next year, this year would be a good year to get him some playing time, even if it's just putting him in to run certain packages. Not as easy to do with a pocket passer, but if you think he's going to the NFL after 4 years regardless, might as well do some prep for next year.

I personally would probably go ahead and RS him because he might be very good and still need to stick around for his RS senior year.

 

[tb5.sixpack]

Lots of "NFL guys" stay 4 yrs and Shea needs to get bigger.

Already answered by Strike, but if you think he's an NFL player, and you think you'll be decent to good next year, this year would be a good year to get him some playing time, even if it's just putting him in to run certain packages. Not as easy to do with a pocket passer, but if you think he's going to the NFL after 4 years regardless, might as well do some prep for next year.

I personally would probably go ahead and RS him because he might be very good and still need to stick around for his RS senior year.

One other thing is that Freeze also has to walk a fine line to not piss off Pellerin. If we played Shea instead of Pellerin, there would be a good chance Pellerin gets pissed. That wouldn't be smart.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

One other thing is that Freeze also has to walk a fine line to not piss off Pellerin. If we played Shea instead of Pellerin, there would be a good chance Pellerin gets pissed. That wouldn't be smart.

If Patterson is the guy you believe takes over next year, you prep him. And you can still play both in the games this fall and give both split reps next spring. It is an open competition through fall camp is what you tell them. Better hope Kelly stays healthy, that is the real fine line Freeze is walking.

 

[GloryDawg]

In the past, the NCAA has generally allowed players to transfer and play immediately if they would be under a bowl ban for the rest of their career at a school. So a player like Patterson would have to sit out a year.

I thought it was only upper class men.

 

[GloryDawg]

you know good and well the answer to that.

that's why i don't get the big hoopla about Patterson redshirting. It has no effect on his future at OM or another school. You transfer, you are sitting out a year unless granted a special waver, but considering you guys are also saying that Shea is part of the investigation, it seems unlikely he would cause and issue and get a waver. You need to work on your story a little better.

Otherwise, troll on brother.

It would be trollin if he was on a Ole Miss message board. It's called Baiting if it is done here and you took a big bite.

 

[tired]

So who comes in if Kelly were to go down?

 

[Drebin]

How is pellerin not going to get pissed, no matter how it shakes out? Patterson is your QB of the future, not Pellerin. That is, until the NCAA is done with you. Then they may both get pissed and leave.

 

[coach66]

Brusier and I discussed it a while back on Nafoom and I do believe he needs to

put on some bulk. He is not that tall of a guy either and could use 20lbs of muscle. It's tough in the SEC, it's a lot tougher if you are undersized.

He obviously has elite arm talent but putting him out there before he is physically ready would be a mistake.

 

[ShrubDog]

So what you are saying is Henig was allot tougher than Patterson is right now.

 

[MaroonNation]

So who comes in if Kelly were to go down?

Matt Wyatt.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

you know good and well the answer to that.

that's why i don't get the big hoopla about Patterson redshirting. It has no effect on his future at OM or another school. You transfer, you are sitting out a year unless granted a special waver, but considering you guys are also saying that Shea is part of the investigation, it seems unlikely he would cause and issue and get a waver. You need to work on your story a little better.

Otherwise, troll on brother.