I find it hard to believe that if a major college football coach wants a job elsewhere, that he is going to give up at his current one. Don't get me wrong, I think Dan has leadership issues, but for him to just mail it in doesn't make much sense.
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Shepard Smith is a screaming banshee he wouldve cried about JWS back in the day ....he needs to worry about his precious Rebel/Bear/unicorns. If Mullen leaves get a coach who is a proven winner and wants to be here
I know that, I'm just saying be prepared to absolutely obliterated for hiring him...the school that hired Jackie Sherrill...fired Sly Croom...suspended Jeffrey Simmons for one game...we will be CRUSHED.
Also, the national media doesn't hate us, just the Clarion Ledger. As soon as we started winning we were media darlings. We were on the cover of SI (twice) and ESPN Magazine. The national media was happy to support us.
Article on Starkville Schools and its success
As another poster said, "you heard wrong"
http://mississippitoday.org/2016/07/19/starkville-school-merger-what-went-right/
As another poster said, "you heard wrong"
http://mississippitoday.org/2016/07/19/starkville-school-merger-what-went-right/
Really? It won't be just Shep. It will be every media outlet you touch every day telling you how you are the most morally despicable program in the country instead of the one 90 miles away that committed 8 (or more) Level 1 NCAA violations.
That would be the most Mississippi State thing ever.
It doesn't matter because there is no way we hire Briles. He is an untouchable in today's climate.
Clutching pearls? Because I don't want to see State dragged through the mud for hiring a guy who, according to the Hamilton report actually forced young ladies to drop charges against the guys who assaulted them because the guys were good at football? My bad.
***Edited to add ambiguity.
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I encourage you to do some reading on Mr. Briles. There is a reason he was fired by Baylor. This will be a PR nightmare for any school that hires him.
In August 2015, Baylor University engaged Pepper Hamilton to conduct an independent and external review of Baylor University’s institutional response to Title IX and related compliance issues through the lens of specific cases. Following an intensive investigation, Pepper provided the Board of Regents with a detailed and comprehensive presentation of its findings and recommendations. Pepper’s findings of fact, as set forth in greater detail in this statement, reflect a fundamental failure by Baylor to implement Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 (Title IX) and the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013 (VAWA). Pepper found that Baylor’s efforts to implement Title IX were slow, ad hoc, and hindered by a lack of institutional support and engagement by senior leadership. Based on a high-level audit of all reports of sexual harassment or violence for three academic years from 2012-2013 through 2014-2015, Pepper found that the University’s student conduct processes were wholly inadequate to consistently provide a prompt and equitable response under Title IX, that Baylor failed to consistently support complainants through the provision of interim measures, and that in some cases, the University failed to take action to identify and eliminate a potential hostile environment, prevent its recurrence, or address its effects for individual complainants or the broader campus community. Pepper also found examples of actions by University administrators that directly discouraged complainants from reporting or participating in student conduct processes, or that contributed to or accommodated a hostile environment. In one instance, those actions constituted retaliation against a complainant for reporting sexual assault. In addition to broader University failings, Pepper found specific failings within both the football program and Athletics Department leadership, including a failure to identify and respond to a pattern of sexual violence by a football player, to take action in response to reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, and to take action in response to a report of dating violence. Pepper’s findings also reflect significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor’s football program as it relates to accountability for all forms of athlete misconduct.
I've done plenty of reading on Briles. You made a specific allegation that he personally forced people to drop charges, which amounts to extortion. If this is true, then he should be facing charges, which I'm not aware of. Is he a bad person? Very possibly. Extortionist? Show me some evidence before laying that out.
Oh we're doing the semantics thing. Ok. He was "personally" responsible for the actions of himself and his staff of assistants who, according to the Hamilton report, did threaten retaliation and did actually retaliate against victims of sexual abuse. I'm not sure what else to tell you.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...against-rape-accuser-in-bombshell-report.html
Regardless, there is no way to hire Art Briles and not get a huge PR black eye.
As I pointed
out in the other thread, a majority of our fans care about our perception in relation to OM. This would give them (and the Nashville team***) lots of ammo.
Hell hath no fury as a MSU fan scorned by an OM fan****
out in the other thread, a majority of our fans care about our perception in relation to OM. This would give them (and the Nashville team***) lots of ammo.
Hell hath no fury as a MSU fan scorned by an OM fan****
I'm not sure how the mods let you get away with stuff like this. Like throwing the word proverbial in there makes it cool.
I think you're a real piece of work and probably one of the worst posters here since 34 but I wouldn't say something like that. Congrats you're now the Hevesy AND Trump of the board. Real accomplishment that.
Also, congrats on another great performance this weekend. Your OL really shined. That play possum move you taught Rankin is really cutting edge. I'm sure the rest of the country club boys thought it was hilarious too. Those of us in the stands were less amused.
There's a reason he has a new agent and it has nothing to do with us not giving him an extension.
Head coaching hiring at msu is easy in principle, you start with a list of coaches that have done the most with the least and you work your way down the list until you find someone that says yes. Mullen was largely a great success because he was an offensive guru. He has no doubt lost some that over the years becoming more and more pedestrian, but if we hired someone that was not an offensive genius as a must have, we are lining up to be South Carolina of the west. We need someone that can make chicken salad out of what we have. An art briles or mike Gundy deciple. As much as I like briles, he is radioactive. Whoever it is, we are setting ourselves up for disaster if their primary strength isn't spreading the field, finding mismatches, and creative play calling. All that said, the only way Mullen isn't coaching here next year is if he leaves on his own. If he could somehow reclaim his manhood and pride, we might could turn this thing around, but hiring a new agent isn't a good sign that he is willing to gut through it. He is looking for his parachute as I type this.
The 2nd part is fact as well. I was told by someone in the AD he hasn't moved because he has had horrible agent representation up to this point.
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I'm glad to hear he hired Sexton. Maybe there will be more discretion now if he goes after another job.
I don't care if he goes for another job I just don't want to hear about it.
I don't care if he goes for another job I just don't want to hear about it.
It will be the local media. The Clarion Ledger and Memphis media will crucify us. Especially Memphis with all their OM mouth pieces.
I'm not saying that is the reason to not hire him. We shouldn't even consider him for a number of reasons. But hypothetical if we did hire him.....it would be a PR nightmare.
I'm not saying that is the reason to not hire him. We shouldn't even consider him for a number of reasons. But hypothetical if we did hire him.....it would be a PR nightmare.