Random Thoughts after LSU

johnson86-1

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Pretty short as I only got to watch snippets of the game and haven't had an opportunity to go back and watch it closely yet:

Mullen really has screwed himself with recruiting. There are lots of mistakes that you can point to, but every team makes mistakes on the field and from the sideline. The real problem is that Mullen wasn't willing to do what it takes in recruiting and it's caught up to him.

There might be a development problem too. A. Williams seemed to show some flashes of why he's not our primary back. He made mistakes that a guy in his third year in the program shouldn't be making. But if none of our young backs are ready to take over? That seems like a coaching problem. But maybe it's just a recruiting problem and all our young backs suck.

Next year is not likely to be better. First, we are not young. We keep hearing that excuse, but it's just not true. We have upperclassmen just getting experience because they weren't that good. And some of those upperclassmen shouldn't be getting experience now if we had done better in recruiting. Next year we will lose our best receiver and three starting offensive linemen. We'll lose our best DL and Nick James. We'll also lose Brown and Coman, although we're better positioned to replace them. At first I was hoping that we were hitting Juco so hard because we had a couple of holes to fill to solidify an otherwise good team, but it seems pretty clear now that we have significant talent needs and are hoping that JUCOs will be big contributors for us. We'll see how that works out but obviously the track record is not promising.

God love Holloway, but it's almost comical watching him block. The play that stands out to me is one where he did pretty much everything right except for not being 160 lbs. He's a gamer but there's just not much he can do in that situation but be a speed bump. That would be enough for Dak; not going to be enough for our current QBs.

Mullen is no longer a fresh offensive mind. He seemed to do more with roughly similar offensive talent his first couple of years here. It would make sense that he's no longer on the cutting edge offensively. He had a system that worked for a while and he hasn't been in a situation where it's obvious he needs to update his philosophy in response to defenses getting more familiar with his version of the spread. But maybe this is a recruiting problem too and our talent is just too limiting. Certainly seems like we had some good plays called up that we didn't execute.

People talking about Mullen getting fired this year are off their rocker, but I do think Mullen is going to be hard pressed to turn it around at this point. He's put himself into a position where he's got what looks like a multi-year rebuild project. A lot of fans are going to be too impatient for that with a coach that's been here almost a decade, so even if Mullen fixes his issues, you're looking at probably missing a bowl this year, winning six or seven next year, and then hopefully taking a good step forward the next. But that's going to be hard to do without momentum and with a lot of fans dissatisfied. It will take Mullen really outworking a lot of other coaches he competes with, a group who already for the most part work their *** off, and presumably some of them (LSU's next coach? Auburn's next coach? UM's next coach?) will have the advantage of being in a fresh situation rather than starting a rebuild after already being in a place for seven years. This is why you see so few coaches make it to ten years or beyond in one place. Once you let things slip a little bit, it's so hard to right the ship. Fans are impatient and coaches have to find a new way to stay motivated. Very few coaches are going to both be given time to fix it by fans and then be able to have the drive that got them there in teh first place when they do have the chance.

ETA: LSU is not good. That was probably a fight for 7th in the West on Saturday, although we may get to sixth since we hopefully will have two SEC East wins. Getting close at the end doesn't make me feel any better.
 
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kired

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First, we are not young. We keep hearing that excuse, but it's just not true. We have upperclassmen just getting experience because they weren't that good. And some of those upperclassmen shouldn't be getting experience now if we had done better in recruiting.

It actually is one of Mullen's youngest teams if you factor in three seniors being out with injuries (Cleveland, Jiles, and Will Coleman). I have no idea how we compare to other SEC teams, but it's younger / less experienced than most of his previous teams.

To break it down --- we have somewhere around 29 seniors / juniors not counting special teams. One of those is a former walk-on (Ward), three are out with injuries, eight came from JUCO (not counting Donald Gray) and one of those appears to be redshirting (Trey Brown). That leaves us with about 18 scholarship upperclassmen that signed with us out of highschool. And like you said --- some of those shouldn't be playing now.
 

johnson86-1

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It actually is one of Mullen's youngest teams if you factor in three seniors being out with injuries (Cleveland, Jiles, and Will Coleman). I have no idea how we compare to other SEC teams, but it's younger / less experienced than most of his previous teams.

To break it down --- we have somewhere around 29 seniors / juniors not counting special teams. One of those is a former walk-on (Ward), three are out with injuries, eight came from JUCO (not counting Donald Gray) and one of those appears to be redshirting (Trey Brown). That leaves us with about 18 scholarship upperclassmen that signed with us out of highschool. And like you said --- some of those shouldn't be playing now.

I'm really looking at it from a production standpoint. We're not a team that is relying on a lot of underclassmen for production. I best wide receiver is a senior. Our two next best are Juniors. Of our top three RBs, two are seniors and the third Our best two RBs are seniors and the third is a third year sophomore not getting carries despite a glaring lack of competition. Our offensive line has three seniors starting. I think we can replace Senior with Jenkins without losing much. But Desper is already a weak link on our O-line, and we don't have a younger guy ready to take playing time from him. I have no clue what we're going to do for Center next year.


ON defense, we are losing our best DL in Jefferson and an important piece in Nick James. Torrey Dale, Will Coleman, and Jonathan Calvin were all playing. Nelson Adams is productive. Richie Brown is a starter. Our DL next year will be pretty much all be Juniors and below. Our DBs will be juniors and below except for Graham and Durr.

So to me, next year looks like the year that we will be young. A lot of our WR production will be underclassmen. Our RB production will hopefully be from underclassmen. We're going to have a brand new Center and OG that will likely be underclassmen. Our entire defense with the exception of CBs and some LBs will be Juniors and below.

To me it looks like next year will be a struggle like this year, and then if we are going to have another peak, it will happen in 2018, but of course that depends on us having OL and CBs at that point. We should be in good shape everywhere else.
 
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