If Stricklin fires Mullen, is this pretty close?

[Bulldogg31]

I posted in another thread, but I think this would be about right:

"So Scott, you just fired the winningest coach in your history after a seven-year stretch where he went to six straight bowls (going 4-2), was ranked number 1 in the country for half a season, developed the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, beat your rival Ole Miss four times, beat LSU, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Michigan, expanded your stadium, sold out all your season tickets, and put 19 players in the NFL.
Why, again, did you fire this man?

Well, Mr. Finebaum, after our long history of football greatness our fans have just come to expect a higher excellence than losing to teams like LSU and Alabama. We feel we've grown beyond such disappointing performances. We're ready to get back to the greatness we experienced in 1941 that one time."

 

[tatedog]

You could've asked Larry Templeton similar things about Jackie Sherrill after 2001. Not taking a side here, just saying.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

You could've asked Larry Templeton similar things about Jackie Sherrill after 2001. Not taking a side here, just saying.

Different situations I think. Point taken.

Hindsight is 20/20 tho. We would've sucked if we fired sherrill after 2001 any with the NCAA sanctions, which is why the situations are different.

 

[Bulldogg31]

You could've asked Larry Templeton similar things about Jackie Sherrill after 2001. Not taking a side here, just saying.

Agreed. And firing Sherrill after 2001 would have been equally unjustified.

 

[dawgoneyall]

I posted in another thread, but I think this would be about right:

"So Scott, you just fired the winningest coach in your history after a seven-year stretch where he went to six straight bowls (going 4-2), was ranked number 1 in the country for half a season, developed the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, beat your rival Ole Miss four times, beat LSU, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Michigan, expanded your stadium, sold out all your season tickets, and put 19 players in the NFL.
Why, again, did you fire this man?

Well, Mr. Finebaum, after our long history of football greatness our fans have just come to expect a higher excellence than losing to teams like LSU and Alabama. We feel we've grown beyond such disappointing performances. We're ready to get back to the greatness we experienced in 1941 that one time."

I am a Mullen supporter....but i would have fired his *** after he whored himself out last Dec for other jobs. That destroyed recruiting (if he ever got seriously engaged in recruiting to begin). We seem to be doing better in recruiting (a little) this year but one had better believe recruits know he will/would leave their *** at the drop of a hat. That is not acceptable....

 

[Shmuley]

Loaferz won't be making that call.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Loaferz won't be making that call.

But he'll have to answer Paul's questions.

 

[dannyripms]

Well we never beat alabama or LSU (1 time). We schedule 4 cupcakes and beat 2 weak east teams. He beats them and all of the sudden we are a winning program. I know our history isn't great so it does t take much to be the best coach we've had but I'd argue that if we scheduled the same way with other coaches we might be saying that about other coaches.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Well we never beat alabama or LSU (1 time). We schedule 4 cupcakes and beat 2 weak east teams. He beats them and all of the sudden we are a winning program. I know our history isn't great so it does t take much to be the best coach we've had but I'd argue that if we scheduled the same way with other coaches we might be saying that about other coaches.

Well, Danny, you'd be wrong.

 

[tatedog]

Let's be real here. This is pretty much a moot argument. There is going to be a metric ton of coaching turnover at the end of this season and Mullen is going to end up somewhere else. He's got a better feel for where he can get to and how much he can get. He's not going to screw it up this time. The guy wants out and he's going to get out. I just feel sorry for the players and fans left behind because we'll never recover from his departure.

 

[DancingRabbit]

There was more talk about Dan leaving 2010-2011 than last year.

Let's be real here. This is pretty much a moot argument. There is going to be a metric ton of coaching turnover at the end of this season and Mullen is going to end up somewhere else. He's got a better feel for where he can get to and how much he can get. He's not going to screw it up this time. The guy wants out and he's going to get out. I just feel sorry for the players and fans left behind because we'll never recover from his departure.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet or hear from "sources".

Except for Paterno, Lavell Edwards and Tom Osborne all coaches eventually move on.

Unfortunately, whoever comes next won't do as much or last as long.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Certainly not as tough as crooms schedules****

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[Sapsdawg]

Little bit different. Sherrill had a 4 win season in 1993, 3 win season in 1995, losing season in 1996 and terrible losses in 2001. Mullen has had none of that. Hell there were people wanting to keep Sherrill after 2002 and (though smaller in number) 2003. Some of these same people who have Jackie sig pics calling for the firing of Dan whose first 7 years swamps Sherrill's first 7 years as a body of work.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Let's be real here. This is pretty much a moot argument. There is going to be a metric ton of coaching turnover at the end of this season and Mullen is going to end up somewhere else. He's got a better feel for where he can get to and how much he can get. He's not going to screw it up this time. The guy wants out and he's going to get out. I just feel sorry for the players and fans left behind because we'll never recover from his departure.

Not happening .. period!

 

[johnson86-1]

I posted in another thread, but I think this would be about right:

"So Scott, you just fired the winningest coach in your history after a seven-year stretch where he went to six straight bowls (going 4-2), was ranked number 1 in the country for half a season, developed the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, beat your rival Ole Miss four times, beat LSU, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Michigan, expanded your stadium, sold out all your season tickets, and put 19 players in the NFL.
Why, again, did you fire this man?

Well, Mr. Finebaum, after our long history of football greatness our fans have just come to expect a higher excellence than losing to teams like LSU and Alabama. We feel we've grown beyond such disappointing performances. We're ready to get back to the greatness we experienced in 1941 that one time."

I am amazed at the number of hard core mullen supporters that seemed to not realize the season started September 3rd and MSU lost to University of South Alabama, a team that has existed roughly as long as Mullen has been at State.

People that think Mullen is going to be fired this year are out of touch with reality, but I think I'm actually more annoyed by the morons that argue people want him fired because he can't beat Alabama and LSU.

 

[ReadyReady]

It's a valid point.

But IMO it's hard to have a legitimate conversation about Mullen's future or our past without considering the way that revenue has changed.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

The amount we got last year for "rights and licensing," which includes the "SEC Money", has more than tripled since Mullen was hired, now at over $40M. As much credit as he deserves for bringing us here, that money alone changes a lot of things when it comes to comparing his performance and our expectations vs. history.

 

[engie]

It's prettymuch identical to the Cutcliffe situation many of the same fools championing it have made fun of for the last decade and a half.

 

[dorndawg]

While I think firing Mullen would be foolish, revenue is skyrocketing at every Power 5 school.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

The 2001 team was much better than the 3-8 record indicated. We were screwed by the refs in the BYU game and were a handful of plays away from having a winning record that year. There were rumors that the offensive players didn't like Madkin and played harder for Fant, but those rumors were probably just that: rumors. Almost everyone thought at the end of 2001 that we had some tough breaks and our victory over Ole Miss and stolen victory against BYU indicated that the team was in store for a much better season in 2002.

Now, there were plenty of good reasons to fire Jackie after 2002. We came out flat in every single SEC game and barely survived against Troy.

 

[ReadyReady]

I think so too.

My point is that rising revenues make it hard to compare current performance and expectations with historical ones for things like bowl streaks, "winningest," etc.

I still think it's crazy to want to fire Mullen at this point, but not because of things like that.