Our recruiting footprint....

[DudyDog]

Right there with La. Tech, Troy and Charlotte. Hey, look at the bright side, we're saving gas money. At least they mention the investigation.


http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...n-by-hometown/


Players at South Florida have the shortest average distance from their hometown to college (129 miles). The next closest: Louisiana Tech (168 miles), Mississippi State (171 miles), Troy (173 miles) and Charlotte (180 miles). It's interesting to note how different the recruiting styles are for the two major programs in Mississippi. While Mississippi State players are 171 miles from home, Ole Miss players are 494 miles away (the highest by any SEC public university). Hugh Freeze's program is under NCAA investigation for recruiting violations.

 

[ckDOG]

Time to reevaluate then...

Find a happy medium. Continue focusing on lbs, d-line, and RBs close to home. There seems to be no shortage of that kind of talent nearby. Expand your footprint for most everything else ESPECIALLY OFFENSIVE LINE. ​ESPECIALLY OFFENSIVE LINE.

 

[tenureplan]

I really don't want to spell this out, but 171 miles really is as far as we need to go as long as we land the right guys. look at the hotspots gents.

 

[MaroonNation]

well we lost one from 4 miles down the street.

 

[aTotal360]

2 from 4 miles down the road and another 17 miles down the road.

 

[msstate7]

We already have. Buckley is recruiting Florida hard

 

[HD6]

The area we are recruiting isn't the problem, it's our inability to land our top targets within that area.

 

[aTotal360]

The easy answer is "land the damn player in your area". But we since we can't seem to do that, we need to cast a wider net. TBuck in FL is a start. We have to be able to recruit a better west of Monroe, LA. Thank God Ross fell in our laps because of a family connection to the university. You'd think Mullen's yankee *** could pull a kid north of Chattanooga, but that hasn't been the case either.

I firmly believe that our staff is lazy compared to their peers. That's why I said a few weeks ago they need to camp out in ATL. If you're going to be lazy, be lazy in ATL. There's a 4 star on every street corner.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

The area we are recruiting isn't the problem, it's our inability to land our top targets within that area.

Yeah our coaches need to learn how to recruit the Golden Triangle before branching out

 

[aTotal360]

We are in the Bermuda Triangle of recruiting (OM, LSU, BAMA) and our inept recruiters keep losing ships. I don't think it's a terrible idea to fish other waters.

 

[WayboDawg]

We need to be hitting Texas (especially Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston) hard every year for Quarterbacks instead of recruiting two stars out of Meridian or Oak Grove high school hoping for the next Dak Prescott. I have no problem where our guys come from as long as they are getting the job done. Last weekend changed my mind about a lot of things though. We need to have a coaching staff representative permanently located in places like Atlanta, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, New Orleans, and St. Louis. Mississippi has such a limited talent pool already, but after you throw in the fact that all the great players want to go to Alabama and the excellent players want to go to Ole Miss, that leaves only a handful of 4 and 3 stars for MSU to fight over with Southern Miss and the junior colleges. This "Win Mississippi" mindset is killing us when it comes to landing talent.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

The area we are recruiting isn't the problem, it's our inability to land our top targets within that area.

Yes.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

The easy answer is "land the damn player in your area". But we since we can't seem to do that, we need to cast a wider net. TBuck in FL is a start. We have to be able to recruit a better west of Monroe, LA. Thank God Ross fell in our laps because of a family connection to the university. You'd think Mullen's yankee *** could pull a kid north of Chattanooga, but that hasn't been the case either.

I firmly believe that our staff is lazy compared to their peers. That's why I said a few weeks ago they need to camp out in ATL. If you're going to be lazy, be lazy in ATL. There's a 4 star on every street corner.

That spreads us too thin.

If we can't land the players in our area then we will suck. End of discussion.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

We need to be hitting Texas (especially Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston) hard every year for Quarterbacks instead of recruiting two stars out of Meridian or Oak Grove high school hoping for the next Dak Prescott. I have no problem where our guys come from as long as they are getting the job done. Last weekend changed my mind about a lot of things though. We need to have a coaching staff representative permanently located in places like Atlanta, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, New Orleans, and St. Louis. Mississippi has such a limited talent pool already, but after you throw in the fact that all the great players want to go to Alabama and the excellent players want to go to Ole Miss, that leaves only a handful of 4 and 3 stars for MSU to fight over with Southern Miss and the junior colleges. This "Win Mississippi" mindset is killing us when it comes to landing talent.

Along with every other program in the central United States. Brilliant plan, ese.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

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[Hoover Dawg]

Our recruiting foot print is what it is. We need to get our share of MS talent, be a solid #3 option in Alabama, and a solid #2 in Louisiana. Then we need to hit our JUCOs as hard as possible, maybe even first and foremost. We should get 90% of our class from those 4 areas.

This is not rocket science. You morons saying we need to camp out in Dallas or Atlanta are just that, morons. How do you expect to beat every other program in the country, with no built in advantage? We can drive to LA, MS and AL while all the others cannot. Use it.

I would say TN and AR but they don't have much talent. Rural GA is another area we probably have an advantage, at least the Columbus/LaGrange area.

 

[aTotal360]

It's over then.

 

[patdog]

The area we're recruiting in is a problem. The closest 2 schools in the SEC are MSU and Bama. The second closest 2 schools are MSU and UM. And northeast Mississippi is very sparsely populated. Those 3 factors make it difficult for us to ever consistently recruit well without expanding our radius.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

The area we're recruiting in is a problem. The closest 2 schools in the SEC are MSU and Bama. The second closest 2 schools are MSU and UM. And northeast Mississippi is very sparsely populated. Those 3 factors make it difficult for us to ever consistently recruit well without expanding our radius.

Spreading out is a bigger problem. Pick the lesser of two evils. You act as if there is another choice. Accept reality.

This is not hard. Go look back at our most successful teams and tell me what areas those teams were built upon.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

It's over then.

Certainly seems that way. Go review our football history.

I am sorry I have to break your bubble of hope, but these are facts we need to accept.

 

[WrapItDog]

We need to be hitting Texas (especially Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston) hard every year for Quarterbacks

 

[CochiseCowbell]

That is impressive.

 

[patdog]

No. It's really not. 120 other schools manage to recruit from a larger geographic footprint than we do. I'm pretty sure we could figure it out. Makes no sense to focus all our recruiting resources on a small geographic area with a low population and more recruiting pressure from rival SEC schools than any other school faces.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

No. It's really not. 120 other schools manage to recruit from a larger geographic footprint than we do. I'm pretty sure we could figure it out. Makes no sense to focus all our recruiting resources on a small geographic area with a low population and more recruiting pressure from rival SEC schools than any other school faces.

Incorrect again. High per capita amount of talent in LA, MS and AL. Very high.

Other schools recruit far away because they have to. Not because they want to.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

The area we are recruiting isn't the problem, it's our inability to land our top targets within that area.

Why is this? The money, the lack of promised early PT, our coaches' personalities, a ****** "neckwork" of HS coaches?

 

[Dawgg]

Two words

Domo Arigato

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/7/18/8999283/united-states-team-usa-ifaf-world-championship-japan

 

[aTotal360]

Other schools recruit far away because they want to win. Not because the want to.

You think Bama recruits California because they have to? 17 not they don't. They could land 90% of the 4-5 star kids out of AL, TN, MS, and GA and fill a roster if they wanted to. They recruit national because they have an insatiable appetite to beat everyone's ***. Our staff doesn't have that appetite.

When it comes to recruiting, our staff is lazy compared to their peers. Period.

 

[the dog is on the loose]

Oh but some say recruiting star rankings don't matter. They say Mullen can take two and three star "projects" and make them superstars. I know, I know some will say yeah look at so and so who wasn't a 4 or 5 star and turned out really good. Those are exceptions to the rules.

 

[aTotal360]

The only people that say stars don't matter are the same people happy with winning 6 games because there's less traffic after the games and it makes their commute back to Renfro easier.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Other schools recruit far away because they want to win. Not because the want to.

You think Bama recruits California because they have to? 17 not they don't. They could land 90% of the 4-5 star kids out of AL, TN, MS, and GA and fill a roster if they wanted to. They recruit national because they have an insatiable appetite to beat everyone's ***. Our staff doesn't have that appetite.

When it comes to recruiting, our staff is lazy compared to their peers. Period.

You are forgetting something. Alabama CAN recruit wherever they want, and can actually sign players. We can't. That's the kicker.

Either way, they certainly did not start out that way: http://alabama.247sports.com/Season/2008-Football/Commits

You guys don't understand how wrong you really are. It's laughable.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

The easy answer is "land the damn player in your area". But we since we can't seem to do that, we need to cast a wider net. TBuck in FL is a start. We have to be able to recruit a better west of Monroe, LA. Thank God Ross fell in our laps because of a family connection to the university. You'd think Mullen's yankee *** could pull a kid north of Chattanooga, but that hasn't been the case either.

I firmly believe that our staff is lazy compared to their peers. That's why I said a few weeks ago they need to camp out in ATL. If you're going to be lazy, be lazy in ATL. There's a 4 star on every street corner.

Add Texas to that. I watch highlights here in Austin every Friday night that showcase kids already playing in a similar offense to ours. I bet we could land some of these kids to play in the SEC.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

Other schools recruit far away because they want to win. Not because the want to.

You think Bama recruits California because they have to? 17 not they don't. They could land 90% of the 4-5 star kids out of AL, TN, MS, and GA and fill a roster if they wanted to. They recruit national because they have an insatiable appetite to beat everyone's ***. Our staff doesn't have that appetite.

When it comes to recruiting, our staff is lazy compared to their peers. Period.

I think this is the very reason yall should increase focus on recruiting the state of AL... Every year there are solid players that leave the state...

It seems yall would have a competitive advantage with that group...

 

[tenureplan]

I'm fine with a 6 win floor every 4-5 years. Especially if we can string together 8, 9, and 10's.