So Spirit Ben says

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That UM has told the NCAA that they aren't cooperating with the investigation any longer... That UM has had enough, and it's time for the NCAA to prove what they may have and leave town or they'll go on the offensive.

LOL, there goes any fantasy of that self-assigned designation of "exemplary cooperation."

And BTW, how does one go on the offensive against the governing body of intercollegiate athletics when you have already admitted to cheating on a pretty massive level? Inquiring minds would like to know.
 
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Have fun with that Ole Miss!

Jackie Sherrill started fighting the NCAA around 2004---it is currently 2016 and there is no resolution in sight.

To beat the NCAA in a court of law you will need mountains of money because the NCAA drags the proceedings out and they have WAY more money than you.

Ole Miss currently doesn't have enough money to fight them---what Ole Miss needs to do is declare war on Switzerland. So the Ole Miss army versus the Switzerland army and the winner gets all those huge and some illegal Swiss Bank Accounts---then and only then would Ole Miss have enough money to fight the NCAA in court.

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Strike.sixpack

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That UM has told the NCAA that they aren't cooperating with the investigation any longer... That UM has had enough, and it's time for the NCAA to prove what they may have and leave town or they'll go on the offensive.

LOL, there goes any fantasy of that self-assigned designation of "exemplary cooperation."

And BTW, how does one go on the offensive against the governing body of intercollegiate athletics when you have already admitted to cheating on a pretty massive level? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Two scenarios about what you are stating he said. First scenario is that, like many other statements coming from their mouthpieces, it's a lie to churn the water for their sheep...I mean landsharts. This is the most likely scenario.

The second scenario is they have been told or learned enough of what the latest rounds of the investigation has turned up. They have been caught in lies that it's in their best interest to shut up at this point and push for judgement with hopes to limit further evidence being found.

If they have really done this, which I don't believe, then their delusions of grandeur have reached a level that surpasses what even the elite schools would even momentarily consider as viable option.
 

tatedog

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Welp, it was nice knowing em. I wonder if "no longer cooperating" means we don't get to see those documents where the school legally paid mama Tunsil's electric bill-- and I was so looking forward to that.
 
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tatedog

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Two scenarios about what you are stating he said. First scenario is that, like many other statements coming from their mouthpieces, it's a lie to churn the water for their sheep...I mean landsharts. This is the most likely scenario.

The second scenario is they have been told or learned enough of what the latest rounds of the investigation has turned up. They have been caught in lies that it's in their best interest to shut up at this point and push for judgement with hopes to limit further evidence being found.

If they have really done this, which I don't believe, then their delusions of grandeur have reached a level that surpasses what even the elite schools would even momentarily consider as viable option.

USC, Alabama, SMU, and Ohio State didn't have the financial or legal resources available to fight the NCAA, but by God Ole Miss does. The NCAA is about to find out what happens when you cross a law school that meets the minimum acceptable requirements for accreditation.
 

121Josey

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Spirit Ben say that Spirit Chuck is the sole authority on the TUNS investigation.
 

missouridawg

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Spirit Ben say that Spirit Chuck is the sole authority on the TUNS investigation.

Imlistened to Spirit Ben when he was linked over here a few weeks ago. It was odd how many times in that one, 30 minute podcast that he complimented his boss on how great he was and how he was the one true authority on this topic.
 

Xenomorph

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"If it could possibly be worse, we realize more lying would be the way to get there."
 

ronpolk

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I think that OM fans have finally realized what the rest of the world already has known and that is that they are 17'd. It's really fun to watch these guys scramble around now.
 

aTotal360

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Let's be honest, "exemplary cooperation" is a farce. That just means the questions and requests the NCAA made to OM were not too tough. Once the line of questions and requests became a little more damning, the tide shifted.
 

Xenomorph

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Exactly.. Initially they were being asked about shoplifting a pack of tic tacs. Now they're about to have to defend a first degree murder charge.
 

Shmuley

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At some point, the apparently few remaining mature adults associated with that God-forsaken piece of **** institution will have no choice but to step in and salvage what's left of their athletic future. Their athletic "leadership" has completely failed them. If it is true that bjelt is authorizing a Kamikaze posturing of defiance, somebody with sense best step in and deal with it quickly. You would think the Archie wing would recognize the looming disaster, but maybe he's balls deep with beaver at this point and feels he has to support him. Are there any adults left in that hell hole?
 

57stratdawg

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Frankly, I don't think this changes much. I actually believe Ben's podcast about "no OM official has been asked about anyone other than Tunsil". The fact the NCAA doesn't involve them in their own investigation probably isn't a good thing for OM.
 

patdog

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They're really going to show the NCAA who's boss now. If only every other school that's ever gone on probation had realized that all you had to do was just put your foot down and tell the NCAA they're not going to put up with them any more and it's time for them to leave now.
 

coach66

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It appears they have identified the problem. His name is Chris Howard, the lead

investigator and they are going to try and smear him it appears. They are already stalking his Facebook page and making a big deal about a rant
he has on there about the confederate flag (he is african american and an LSU guy).
 

Junction John

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What they need now is a good scapegoat. Wonder where they could find one...

  • Preferably someone high up the chain of command in the athletics department, to make a bold statement about "how seriously we take these allegations"
  • Needs to be someone who it won't hurt the fanbase too badly to lose (if you could find someone who has lied repeatedly to the media and fans, that would be nice.)
  • Should be an outsider -- not someone tied into the old money alumni (aka "the network"). Heck, maybe even someone who's not an alumnus.
  • And boy, it would really be a bonus if they could find someone who constantly did embarrassing and stupid **** on social media, like challenge people to fights, post pics of himself and supposedly disassociated boosters, etc.

I don't know, I can't think of anyone who fits that description.
 

RutherfordBHayes

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This begs the question:
So what?

It's not as if they self-reported all of these allegations anyway. Despite the fact that some of them claim as much, the NCAA is out there uncovering all of this stuff on its own.

What are they gonna do? Not show up to the COI? Ha! That'll show 'em!
 

coach66

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Melt down mode is upon us, Spirit begging people to quit messaging him on

Facebook.
 

tatedog

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Ole Miss social media brigade to Colin K. : "Just stay seated there and watch how it's done..."
 

codeDawg

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So the fanbase is going to personally attack the African American lead investigator over his dislike of a symbol most of the country considers racist? Good plan, Ole Miss. Go for it. I'm sure you will get lots of people on your side and not his.
 

MedDawg

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That UM has told the NCAA that they aren't cooperating with the investigation any longer... That UM has had enough, and it's time for the NCAA to prove what they may have and leave town or they'll go on the offensive.

LOL, there goes any fantasy of that self-assigned designation of "exemplary cooperation."

And BTW, how does one go on the offensive against the governing body of intercollegiate athletics when you have already admitted to cheating on a pretty massive level? Inquiring minds would like to know.

That's just stupid. He's wrong. NO WAY would OM tell the NCAA that. The NCAA already has enough in the first NOA to take 30+ scholarships and 4 years of bowl bans. And they can give show causes to everyone just for saying they're not going to cooperate.
 

Drebin

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That's just stupid. He's wrong. NO WAY would OM tell the NCAA that. The NCAA already has enough in the first NOA to take 30+ scholarships and 4 years of bowl bans. And they can give show causes to everyone just for saying they're not going to cooperate.

Remember what Freeze said about the investigation...it's been like a three year long colonoscopy. Well, when the NCAA is elbow-deep in their ***, it's a little late to decide that you don't want to cooperate anymore.
 

ckDOG

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More propaganda.

That's just stupid. He's wrong. NO WAY would OM tell the NCAA that. The NCAA already has enough in the first NOA to take 30+ scholarships and 4 years of bowl bans. And they can give show causes to everyone just for saying they're not going to cooperate.

I think the admin has known for a while they are getting nailed. They've maintained that they have been cooperative and forthcoming even though that doesn't appear to be the truth. They spend 7 figures on a pretty powerpoint summarizing the process and dropped keywords like "exemplary cooperation" hoping that would paint the story they are doing thing the right way. Now that it doesn't appear that any of this is going away soon, they are going to make it sound like the NCAA is "the man" trying to bring down OM due to being pot committed or because of rival schools' jealousies. It's all designed to deflect any sort of ownership in an effort to preserve their jobs and so far it appears to be working. It doesn't change the reality of hot water with the NCAA, but the lemmings still haven't accepted the big picture yet.
 

Shmuley

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This lack of message coordination betrays an evolving battle for control. Trustee level politicos and upper echelon admins are waking up to the looming disaster. Somebody with sense better find a way to back channel with the COI fast. Figure out which heads on a platter would quench the taste for blood. The Day of Reckoning Approacheth, Shitheads.
 

dawgface

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that's great.....ahh-chee being "balls deep with beaver"....actually you have to think that they will get around to looking at ahh-chee and all those associated with him, including former roommates, teammates, etc. after all, it was ahh-chee who hand-picked and anointed beaver for the bears. ahh-chee is their patron saint and when they begin to get angry with him, it's a sign that the apocalypse is upon them...
 
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