Bless your heart, you really don’t have a clue. You have zero concept of the verses and their meanings and what they relate to. You are showing your lack of education.
Oscar cussing lol ?
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Mind you I quoted your bible word for word. How does this demonstrate my education or lack of.
I'll tell you whats hard to fathom....Your extinsive knowledge of your creator. A creator you have never seen, heard, or touched. The only knowledge you believe you know is from a book written by goat herders thousands of years ago.
That is truth. Yet you want to argue. Are you searching for the truth or an argument?
You quoted the Bible word for word?
Lol
Education?
Mental health?
You mean copy and paste. Lol
So, I'm the only one arguing? Call it arguing if you like. I'm defending my position and answering asked questions.
I've never claimed to know the answers. Believers claim to know the answers, therfore have the burden of proving their claim. Just because I don't have the answers, doesn't mean Christianity is the answer.
I don't believe in a heaven. Where is this proof that a heaven exist? Please don't say.... the bible.
No you’re not the only one arguing. But you have not answered the asked question. What do you believe and where did we come from?
Because those haven't proven their answers are true. And neither has anyone else. Do you expect me to accept an unproven answer. Or an answer based on faith?
Who are those who do? Unless you're dead, you don't know!
Agreed, and I would even argue the dead don't even know....they are dead.
All I would ask that you search for the truth with an open mind. You seem like someone who would like to know the truth. Continue that search until you find it. I’m not trying to convince you of anything. There are answers that are out there If you are willing to search. Your search is independent of what I or anyone else may.know or believe. But what I can tell you is that when you find it, you’ll know. Then when someone ask you what you believe, you’ll be able to tell them.
The answer I expected. Not one question answered by the highly intelligent atheist who is too smart to believe in God. Or so he thinks.
You can quote all day, that doesn’t prove you actually know anything about what or why it says what it says.
I can open up a Harry Potter book and quote a few paragraphs but that doesn’t automatically make me educated about the book. Same applies to you and the Bible.
I've just never understood the mental gymnastics people are willing to accept to believe in most organized religions.
The whole being loved unconditionally so long as I abide by certain conditions just feels off to me. So does praying to a God for mercy or for things that are ultimately attributed to him in their beliefs to begin with. Sounds like a very controlling relationship.
I sure as hell don't support believing a book written by men 1000's of years ago who claimed to hear voices, has been translated countless times and then had an entire new version written and added by a king because he wasn't keen on some of the rules in the old version.
Sounds like you are as misled as CrashTest. If the Big Bang and Evolution both are scientifically impossible and no evidence whatsoever they happened, what do you believe in? I’m curious because if you say evolution I’m gonna need an example of a bird evolving to something totally different, like a dog, cat or something. If you say Big Bang, I’m also gonna need factual evidence that it took place and scientific proof that something can come from nothing.
You are the one who stopped searching for truth/answers. I am open to the possibilities. Even the possibilitiy your god exist. I just can't claim to know based on faith Faith is no reliable path towards truth.
Yes there are answers out there and you have answers The question is....are those answers true. I haven't been presented with evidence that suggest your answers are true.
Lol, what?
How is the big bang or evolution scientific impossible? How does no evidence of either exists?
Why would a species need to evolve into something totally different to prove evolution? Homo erectus and homosapiens aren't completely different.
Also, have you never seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly?
Nahum 1:2
A jealous and avenging God is the Lord
The Lord is avenging and wrathful
The Lord takes vengeance on his adversaries
And he reserves wrath for his enemies
Hebrews 8:6-8
But as it is Christ has obtained a ministry that is much more excellent than the old as the covenant he meditates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. For he finds fault with them when he says: "Behold the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah."(Jeremiah 31:31)
Matthew 39:36-40
"Teacher which is the great commandment in the law?"
Jesus said to him "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
My faith as simple put as possible for this discussion. But it is SOOOOOO much more than just these words. His spirit guides me and sometimes I fail, but he is a forgiving God for those who call him Lord!!!! And I can't wait to see and live with him when this world is over!!! I BELIEVE in HIM!!!
How do you know the Big Bang or Evolution are impossible? You don't. I've stated many times I don't know the answer of how we came to be.
However 4.5 billion years is plenty of time for extroidinary changes to occur. Who says you or I have the knowledge to understand the complexity or limits of evolution over a period of 4.5 billion years.
You’re missing it like I knew you all would. In order for us to evolve from an ape or fish or whatever you believe, we would have to evolve into an entire different species. Show me where anything at all has evolved into an entirely different species. For example, a house cat evolved from a bigger cat but it’s still a cat. Show me where something evolved to a new species?????
Who says carbon dating is accurate? How did they test carbon dating to know if it’s accurate?
I'm not sure if you're just poorly educated or if you're just fu^king with me. You really might want to consider a biology class. Why would homo erectus to homosapien need to evolve from totally different species when they are nearly identical species?
What is a caterpillar to a butterfly?
So, what is your evidence God exists?
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Question....
Can faith lead to a false outcome as well as true?
Answer....
Yes.
Then why would anyone claim to know the answer to arguably the most important question of all? If the answer is determined from faith
1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chose generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people, that you should proclaim the praises of him, who has called you out of darkness into His glorious light.
Matthew 22:14
Many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 7:14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and there are few that find it.
But you are a chose generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people, that you should proclaim the praises of him, who has called you out of darkness into His glorious light.
Matthew 22:14
Many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 7:14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and there are few that find it.
Uh... peer reviewed scientist
The writings from several uneducated goat herders 2000 years ago is perfect and accurate.
And how many time have those writtings been rewritten now?
The new and improved testament now.....really.
About the tattoos.....
Isaiah 44:5, talking about the restoration of Israel, reads, "This one will say, ‘I am the LORD’S’ And that one will call on the name of Jacob; And another will write on his hand, ‘Belonging to the LORD,’ And will name Israel’s name with honor."
So obviously it's not a cut and dry subject in the Bible.
Isaiah 44:5, talking about the restoration of Israel, reads, "This one will say, ‘I am the LORD’S’ And that one will call on the name of Jacob; And another will write on his hand, ‘Belonging to the LORD,’ And will name Israel’s name with honor."
So obviously it's not a cut and dry subject in the Bible.
Zero times. People believe all sorts of silly things they hear on the street, though.
Because the Lord gave us all Free Will. He didn't want robots. He wanted his creation to CHOOSE him.
My faith is strong enough that I KNOW he is REAL. But just like Peter, I have had doubt creep in. But his spirit lives inside of me and he takes my doubt away.
If you don't have it, it's hard to explain, but if you first believe, you CAN receive.
John 4:14
but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.
So the Old Testament reads the same as the New Testament?
No the devil gave that when sin was introduced into this world.
Again, free will.
No I don't. But I believe evolution is possible. I believe your god is possible, just not likely.
This world is not the important one, the next one is.
Eternity with him. This world will ALWAYS have bad things, our PROMISED heaven will NOT!!!