Interesting Take on SEC Coaches

[MarkDallas]

http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2016/...view-2016-measuring-each-coachs-effectiveness

 

[57stratdawg]

Interesting take on what we all already knew. After reading this, it makes me almost guarantee a 7-5 record this year.

 

[MarkDallas]

It definitely appears to support what many have been saying for a while. I think what you have to remember is that we are expected to win more games than we were in the past. So anyone who tries to say this means Mullen is a mediocre coach doesn't really understand what it's measuring.

 

[croomin]

Regardless of your angle on what exactly it measures, the trend....

It definitely appears to support what many have been saying for a while. I think what you have to remember is that we are expected to win more games than we were in the past. So anyone who tries to say this means Mullen is a mediocre coach doesn't really understand what it's measuring.

...screams a plateau. And I'm not saying that's unacceptable. Is what it is.

 

[Bulldogg31]

One of my favorite thing Mullen has done is eliminate the unexplainable loss.

Also, it's complete BS that he is 0-17 in "games we weren't expected to win". NOBODY thought we'd win those 3 Top10 games in a row in 2014, or his first Egg Bowl.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

And I thought there was going to be a reference to zero 17s here...

 

[CochiseCowbell]

One of my favorite thing Mullen has done is eliminate the unexplainable loss.

Also, it's complete BS that he is 0-17 in "games we weren't expected to win". NOBODY thought we'd win those 3 Top10 games in a row in 2014, or his first Egg Bowl.

Good point.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

People love to move the target on Mullen. It's always 'ok well he did that but he can't do this' It's a neverending game with opposing fanbases, sports writers and even some of our own.

 

[Shmuley]

He's done exceedingly well for this neighborhood.

 

[57stratdawg]

Well, to me the debate is no longer "what is Mullen", it's about your personal feelings on a coach who loses to good teams but beats bad teams.

 

[johnson86-1]

One of my favorite thing Mullen has done is eliminate the unexplainable loss.

Also, it's complete BS that he is 0-17 in "games we weren't expected to win". NOBODY thought we'd win those 3 Top10 games in a row in 2014, or his first Egg Bowl.

That's because he's not accurately describing what the ranking looks at. If I understand it, the S&P+ ranking looks at of a season, and then uses all of those results to determine what an average team is, and then determines how many points better than average each team is. It's not a measure of performance against expectations, it's a measure of volatility (or conversely, consistency) if anything. Mullen is pretty much perfectly consistent. Almost every year, the teams he beats are the worst teams he played, and the teams he loses to are the best. Even the one blip on his record according to their measure is not really a blip, as A&M had not fully imploded yet when we played them.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

I think this says that Mullen is a good coach but more importantly, you have to have the best players. After Kevin Sumlin with 6 "not supposed to win" games, the next closest is Butch Jones and Gary Pinkel with 3 wins and they each had over 20 tries each. Mark Stoops is 0-21.

All the coaches are good, but to me you have to have players and it's amazing that Saban has built teams that are far better than every other team he's faced except on a few occasions and he is 1-4.