It was pretty good, interesting story, cool effects, a lot of action, and kept it a trekkie movie.
OT: New Star Trek movie
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I have a Star Trek movie question...
I watched the tv show as a kid but have never seen ANY of the movies. If I wanted to go back and watch them (movies), should I watch them in chronological order or does it matter? If Chronological order is best, what is the order of them all (I think the old ones may have been numbered)?
Start with Star Trek the Motion Picture BUT
Do not give up after watching it.
It wasn't the best - recycled story line (The Changeling) but it can be viewed today for what it was, a relaunch at the beginning of the special effects age with all the emphasis put on effects. It actually has not aged that badly.
The next movie (ST II: Wrath of Khan) really took off - perhaps the best of the six with the original characters, although I am partial to First Contact as the best movie.
I'd go in order...although you could watch the new ones first without any problem after you watch ST II (Into Darkness pays homage to it in many ways).
Do not give up after watching it.
It wasn't the best - recycled story line (The Changeling) but it can be viewed today for what it was, a relaunch at the beginning of the special effects age with all the emphasis put on effects. It actually has not aged that badly.
The next movie (ST II: Wrath of Khan) really took off - perhaps the best of the six with the original characters, although I am partial to First Contact as the best movie.
I'd go in order...although you could watch the new ones first without any problem after you watch ST II (Into Darkness pays homage to it in many ways).
Just watch 2, 3, 4 and 6 in that order. 1is awful and 5 isn't very good either.
The TNG movies can be watched in any order. First Contact is the only one of them that is particularly good.
The Abramsverse movies should be watched in order.
If you're going to watch the old ones, just watch the even-numbered ones (II, IV, and VI). The odd-numbered ones truly sucked.
For watching the new ones, you need to see them in chronological order.
You don't need to watch the old ones at all to appreciate the new ones, although to fully appreciate Start Trek Into Darkness (2013) you need to have seen Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.(1982).
For watching the new ones, you need to see them in chronological order.
You don't need to watch the old ones at all to appreciate the new ones, although to fully appreciate Start Trek Into Darkness (2013) you need to have seen Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.(1982).
III is pretty bad, but necessary in order for the Spock dynamic in IV to make sense, so I wouldn't skip it. Definitely skip I and V unless you find yourself becoming a diehard trekkie.
Agree with all you said and add that The Undiscovered Country is better now with age and there is a pretty good Directors Cut out there if you can find it.
I thought the 2009 reboot was really good. Here's a story to go along with that.
The pre-release hype for the 2009 was so epic on the web and with the trek nerds that just a week or so before the premiere, they were going to hold a special showing of ST II - The Wrath of Khan here in Austin at the Paramount downtown. I was supposed to go with a friend, but backed out at the last minute.
So they start rolling ST - II and get about 10 or 15 minutes in when the screen goes white and they say they are having technical difficulties.
A few minutes later, Leonard Nimoy walks out on the stage and the crowd goes nuts. He says he knows they all want to see the movie but he thought he might show the New Star Trek instead.
The place goes apeshit.
And so did I after hearing this after the fact.
I thought the 2009 reboot was really good. Here's a story to go along with that.
The pre-release hype for the 2009 was so epic on the web and with the trek nerds that just a week or so before the premiere, they were going to hold a special showing of ST II - The Wrath of Khan here in Austin at the Paramount downtown. I was supposed to go with a friend, but backed out at the last minute.
So they start rolling ST - II and get about 10 or 15 minutes in when the screen goes white and they say they are having technical difficulties.
A few minutes later, Leonard Nimoy walks out on the stage and the crowd goes nuts. He says he knows they all want to see the movie but he thought he might show the New Star Trek instead.
The place goes apeshit.
And so did I after hearing this after the fact.
See Wrath of Khan. Really the best one. The rest get very bogged down. I can't remember which one Kirstie Allie was in, when they chased the Voyager space craft through the Galaxy, but seeing her bald forever ruined her career. She got fat after that.
IV. It's not the one to watch if you're looking for spaceships and strange new worlds, but it doesn't mean it's not a good movie in its own right. Star Trek has always been more about the characters anyway; space is just the backdrop. IV just takes that concept to the extreme, and I can understand if its not your cup of tea.
Rogue One tells the story of the Bothans who went to get Spocks dead body from Vulcan though. Lesson: never send a Bothan to do anything. I sent many out to get me coffee...all dead : (
Star Trek is serious geek stuff. I mean, there are Star Wars geeks. Then, the super geeks that follow Star Trek.
Another way to put it...if standard recruiting cheating=Star Wars. Then Hugh Freeze cheating=Star Trek. Just like Hugh Freeze, a Trekkie tries to normalize and justify their behavior to the public...all the while hiding their extreme geek lifestyle in the shadows.
Another way to put it...if standard recruiting cheating=Star Wars. Then Hugh Freeze cheating=Star Trek. Just like Hugh Freeze, a Trekkie tries to normalize and justify their behavior to the public...all the while hiding their extreme geek lifestyle in the shadows.
It wasn't the worst movie, you're correct. I've not been able to watch them in order to know if it was vital in the film story arcs. I'm not a Trekkie, I don't think, since I haven't made it through the original TV series yet. I remember catching TNG sporadically on Saturday's as a kid. Then, a few years ago, on Netflix I stumbled across Enterprise with Scott Bakula (Huge Quantum Leap fan) watched all of it. Moved to TNG, DS9, & Voyager. Just restarted Enterprise on Netflix with all the current hubbub around the franchise.
Long post short, to the OP: Snoop, the TV serials are often better than the films. Watch those as well. That's where a plethora of character development takes place, as thf24 alluded to. As there is no current series, these new films are also great. I actually prefer Pine over Shatner. Heresy, I'm sure.
Long post short, to the OP: Snoop, the TV serials are often better than the films. Watch those as well. That's where a plethora of character development takes place, as thf24 alluded to. As there is no current series, these new films are also great. I actually prefer Pine over Shatner. Heresy, I'm sure.
Kirstie Alley was in Wrath of Khan. It was her second movie and five years before Cheers.
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