Sounds like the Big12 has decided to expand

[57stratdawg]

12 or 14 teams.

BYU, Cincy, Memphis, USF, UCF, Colorado St, Boise St, UConn and others in discussion.

 

[mcdawg22]

That would be a lottery winning for Memphis and UConn, how many SEC teams are gonna pay them to come play at home for that P5 game.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Give em Missouri

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I would not add USF, CSU BSU or UConn. Boise is mediocre in only one sport, UConn offers nothing outside of roundball, CSU and USF bring nothing other than small markets

Maybe USF has a big market. I can think their fan base cares that much about sports

 

[121Josey]

Will "explore" expanding.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Slight thread hijack, but that's great news for Southern Miss. In the spring and into the summer, there were multiple reports that USM was the favorite of the American conference if they lost a team to the Big 12. Yeah, we'd still be mid-major, but at least it would be in the "best of the rest" conference with old C-USA rivals rather than the current watered down C-USA.

 

[wtw2400]

Bill Snyder said 2 teams are intrested in joining back. I doubt that is true. But what if Missouri was really intrested in joining back. Texas A&M is as happy as can be in the SEC but it wouldnt shock me if Missouri left for the Big 12. Remember the SEC is the only conference that does NOT have a buyout. So dont be surprised if the Big 12 tries to go after Arkansas or Ole Miss as well. Along with these teams the Big 12 needs to have Memphis BYU and Cincinnati on their short list. And I would kick out Baylor for Houston because Baylor has nothing. But thats just me.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

Not Ole Miss

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

+1

Hahahahaha......b-b-b-but, beat Bama 2 times in a row.**

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[archdog]

Ole Miss, that would be hilarious.

Really though, if Memphis and Missouri wanted to go that would be great. SEC could pick up NCState to replace. That and maybe Memphis can build into a respectable program. They were my team growing up.

 

[engie]

Ole Miss, that would be hilarious.

Really though, if Memphis and Missouri wanted to go that would be great. SEC could pick up NCState to replace. That and maybe Memphis can build into a respectable program. They were my team growing up.

Will be sweet when we get the first tv revenue from NCState... in 2037...

 

[57stratdawg]

VT too.

 

[ShrubDog]

BYU(1)
Cincy(2)
Rado(3)
Mem(4)

 

[PBRME]

Memphis and one of the Florida schools makes the most sense. Both states are entrenched heavily in SEC territory. They could tap into the recruiting and tv markets.

 

[ronpolk]

I hope they expand out west. I have no interest in Memphis being a power 5 school. Just another school we would have recruit against.

 

[The Maroon Pug]

You really think Ole Miss and Arky would go? I highly doubt it

 

[PBRME]

Unfortunately Missouri will only leave for the Big 10. They don't want them.

 

[rugbdawg]

Yea. We don't need Memphis as a P5 school. Would be worse for Ole Miss as they actually recruit that area heavily. We should, of course, but our staff is to recruiting as Ed Orgeron is to "class".

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Not the way the TCU guy talked on Sports 56 this morning. He said that the Big 12 would love to have them back.

 

[57stratdawg]

They wouldn't go. It'll be interesting to see the financial split ups of the new institutions. There's a lot of talk right now that the Big12 will ask for major revenue deferrals from invited schools.

Puts Memphis in a good spot IMO. They'll be willing to wait on the check if it means legitimizing their program to some degree.

 

[patdog]

That's a pretty underwhelming list for a Power 5 conferences expansion candidates. Even worse than the Big 10 adding Maryland and Rutgers.

 

[Digging dog]

Can we return Missouri back in fer sumpin else?**

 

[tatedog]

Don't even need a trade for Missouri, just write them a check and say "sorry for the misunderstanding."

Add Clemson , and if South Carolina doesn't like it, tell them there is a check with their name on it too.

 

[PBRME]

The Big 10 not Big 12. I think you were replying to me. Hard to tell on mobile.

 

[Dawg1976]

I doubt he would lie. I could see Missouri and Colorado returning as the Big 12 just seems like a better fit. Financially it would be hard for Missouri to leave the SEC.

 

[engie]

They would both be taking a $20mil per year pay cut for a decade -- in hopes that the current television model is still in place -- by the time the market corrects itself and the current Big12 contract expires so they can first get a full piece of that pie(actually read up on their expansion) -- which probably gets them back to ~ the same amount of money they were currently making. And not too much over half what they will be making in 10 years in the SEC/Pac12. All that to say no one is leaving an existing P5 for the Big12. It's insanity. It is still the least stable of the 5 and will also be the least geographic of the 5.

The power 5 shuffling is done for the foreseeable future outside of picking up Lo5 schools. It's done until either the ACC or Big12 has enough of it's membership find better landing spots that they have the number of school votes needed to disband the conference. Otherwise, none of those schools own their own TV rights anymore. They belong to those conferences. And basically will for as long as those conferences exist.

 

[Xenomorph]

I'd rather leave Clemson alone, take NC State and watch them swallow UNC in football.

 

[esplanade91]

I would not add USF, CSU BSU or UConn. Boise is mediocre in only one sport, UConn offers nothing outside of roundball, CSU and USF bring nothing other than small markets

Maybe USF has a big market. I can think their fan base cares that much about sports

UConn offers a lot, actually. First and foremost, it's in the New York and New Haven media markets. UConn is an afterthought, it's all about making sure that people in New York City and elsewhere in the most populated part of the country are watching a Big 12 conference game each week, regardless of who is playing. This is how we ended up with Missouri and why we added Texas A&M and thus won't add another Dallas/OKC market team (cough, OU, cough).

 

[MaroonNation]

Don't even need a trade for Missouri, just write them a check and say "sorry for the misunderstanding."

Add Clemson , and if South Carolina doesn't like it, tell them there is a check with their name on it too.

What in the wide wide world of sports does adding Clemson bring to the SEC? We already have all
17 people with TV's in South Carolina watching us. Clemson brings absolutely zero. NC State would be a much more viable option? Bringing the Charolette/Raleigh/Durham audience in.

 

[MarkDallas]

What in the wide wide world of sports does adding Clemson bring to the SEC? We already have all
17 people with TV's in South Carolina watching us. Clemson brings absolutely zero. NC State would be a much more viable option? Bringing the Charolette/Raleigh/Durham audience in.

Competition. If your only motivation in expansion is market share, then the conference will become watered down. No one cares your market share if the play on the field stinks. The SEC didn't become the #1 conference in the country because of market share, but because of the level of play. That has to factor into any expansion discussion. Not saying it's the only factor.

 

[MaroonNation]

Ummmmm the SEC became #1 because of Bama. I mean LSU, Florida and Auburn helped out a little too. It's all about market share which is why we will not add any more teams from states already represented. The Charolette market would be huge. The Greenville, South Carolina market? Not so much.

 

[MarkDallas]

Ummmmm the SEC became #1 because of Bama. I mean LSU, Florida and Auburn helped out a little too. It's all about market share which is why we will not add any more teams from states already represented. The Charolette market would be huge. The Greenville, South Carolina market? Not so much.

So how did Bama make the SEC #1? There's less than 5 million people in all of Alabama.

Answer: By being ultra-competitive and drawing viewers from outside northern Alabama.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

So how did Bama make the SEC #1? There's less than 5 million people in all of Alabama.

Answer: By being ultra-competitive and drawing viewers from outside northern Alabama.

I know people who have only ever flown over the state of Alabama and are Alabama fans because of it.

And whenever I'm five states away, people say "Roll Tide" to me when I show them my license.

 

[John Lorry]

Bill Snyder said 2 teams are intrested in joining back. I doubt that is true. But what if Missouri was really intrested in joining back. Texas A&M is as happy as can be in the SEC but it wouldnt shock me if Missouri left for the Big 12. Remember the SEC is the only conference that does NOT have a buyout. So dont be surprised if the Big 12 tries to go after Arkansas or Ole Miss as well. Along with these teams the Big 12 needs to have Memphis BYU and Cincinnati on their short list. And I would kick out Baylor for Houston because Baylor has nothing. But thats just me.

There is no way in hell that Arkansas or Ole Miss would even consider that.

 

[engie]

So, the SEC needs more competition in your opinion?

 

[MarkDallas]

So, the SEC needs more competition in your opinion?

No, I'm against expansion. But if you are going to expand, that has to factor into the equation.

 

[maroonmania]

Why not Ole Miss and SMU???***

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Colorado has a lot of alums living on the west coast so the Pac 12 is more natural to them.

Only three alumni chapters in the Big 12 area and nine in Pac 12 country. Heck, they have five chapters in SEC states so Colorado has a better chance of joining the SEC than the Big 12...

Link: Here.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

I live near Houston, and Houston fans are convinced they'll get the call.

Going to be a lot of disappointed Cougs.

 

[RocketDawg]

You really think Ole Miss and Arky would go? I highly doubt it

Arkansas might since they came from the SWC, but they've been in the SEC long enough to be pretty firmly entrenched now. But Ole Miss won't. Like us, they are charter members of the SEC. Why give up such a good thing?