Sahvir Wheeler
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He did in the clutch just like St Peters last year. Missed vital free throws as well
That only works if the other team allows them to be open, our players don't move consistently, especially at crunch time.
We got the whole gamut from Wheeler last night. He made some great plays. He made some stupid plays. He missed key free throws. He had a completely unacceptable traveling call- that turnover came at just about the worst possible time. Wheeler gives and Wheeler gives away. Wallace was great defensively last night, definitely one of the bright spots, but he is timid with the ball in his hands. Looked scared to make a play. He will mature, though, I have no doubt. The thing about Wheeler last night, despite all of the frustrating plays, we lose by double digits in regulation last night without him. I'm sure some would argue. He was the only one making plays for others last night. At least for now, he needs to start. I think Wallace needs to start at the 2 and he needs to be more aggressive with his scoring. I think Fredrick starts at the 3. Livingston clearly wasn't ready last night. And we MUST get something from Reeves. He wasn't ready for the intensity of that game. I also note that he played very poorly in the exhibition against Mo Western State, which was also a very physical game. He's got to get over that before SEC play. We need his scoring from the bench. Theiro may have played well in that scrum last night, may deserve a chance.
Why does no one mention Wallace missed free throws in crunch time, not once but twice.
It doesn't fit the preferred narrative. Wheeler should be criticized for missing free throws and for having 3 turnovers, especially that last one that was a traveling call. But Wallace missed 2 of 4 free throws late in the game, and also had 3 turnovers and looked afraid to make a play with the ball in his hands. Wheeler made plays last night and Wallace's defense was elite. I think they should both start. Both must make those free throws. When 2 guards combine for 4-8 from the FT line, you're going to lose close games.
If you circle more threads, you’ll see plenty of people mention Wallace’s missed FT’s and TO’s.
You going to start Wheeler and Wallace with Fredrick, Toppin, and Oscar? Not going to work. Wasn’t working last night. You’ve got to have three guys that can shoot. And don’t tell me Wheeler and Toppin can shoot. Wallace’s shot is still questionable, so that lineup gives you one reliable shooter (and even his percentage ain’t looking so hot, and won’t get better with that lineup).
Wheeler was one of only 2 players who actually MADE two threes last night. I would say only one of his 6 attempts was a poor shot, the last one that was taken from WAY downtown. Wallace was timid with the ball in his hands last night Cincy. Will you at least acknowledge that? Wheeler came in and made plays. He drove the lane and scored and ended up with 16 points and 8 assists. Oscar was the player of the game for UK but Wheeler was 2nd on that list. I know, it pains you to say so, but it's true. Someone has to make plays for the team to find easy buckets. I know you don't like his game, but he's got to be the starter- and I think he will be starting the next game. And he's got to make enough of those open threes to keep defenses honest. If he's making those shots, he can stay in the game. If he's not, sit him down. That's the best bet. Put Wallace at the 2 and tell him to get over his timidity and aggressively make plays. As for Reeves and Fredrick, both of those guys looked shaken by the physicality of Mich State last night. They've got to step it up too. Toppin has not been living up to the off-season hype at all. He made some shots last night but we need more. Oscar played a whale of a game for the most part but he took several unnecessary risks. He must stay on the floor. There are many lessons to learn from last night. I just hope they can learn them quickly, because the schedule isn't getting any easier.
I spoke plainly elsewhere about Wallace. They both struggled and made crucial errors. But Wallace needs more time at PG to develop and not be shaky.
Wheeler playing 30mpg is going to lead to the same results as last year. I mean here we are again - after our convo where I highlight winning vs. losing and you highlight Wheeler’s stats. Wheeler was the leader last night and the dude who attempted to put the team on his shoulders - and he led us to another loss that looked just like the late season losses last year. And his plays on both ends of the court were just as crucial as anything Wallace did. And the problem is - he’s a senior. It’s unacceptable.
And you’re not addressing the issue of having Wheeler and Wallace on the court with Toppin and Oscar and only one of CJ/Reeves. You can’t use that lineup. The one deep threat on the court won’t get any clean looks outside of Oscar’s offensive boards. I’d argue a huge part of what went wrong was having Wallace and Wheeler out there together, because Cal has not shooters at the 4 and 5 spots.
I mentioned it in another thread.
Wallace missed key free throws. Wheeler missed key free throws. The difference is Wallace has played in 3 college games and Wheeler has played in about 70 or so games.
Got to give Wallace some time to grow.
Wheeler is what he is.
Wallace vs Wheeler isn't an either/or proposition.
Put Wallace/Wheeler/Reeves/Fredrick on the court at the same time.
The "weakness" of our lineups is that Cal has too many guys who can only really play the 5, one of them is the de facto backup to Oscar and is the worst player on the team. By a sense of necessity of getting them in the game, the 5's with limited perimeter skill get stuck playing the 4, therefore taking the opportunity away from more skilled players from filling in at the role.
This is how we have Collins, who has demonstrated little to no ability to dribble through over a year at UK, is playing the 4 alongside Ware at the 5.
Put Wallace/Wheeler/Reeves/Fredrick on the court at the same time.
The "weakness" of our lineups is that Cal has too many guys who can only really play the 5, one of them is the de facto backup to Oscar and is the worst player on the team. By a sense of necessity of getting them in the game, the 5's with limited perimeter skill get stuck playing the 4, therefore taking the opportunity away from more skilled players from filling in at the role.
This is how we have Collins, who has demonstrated little to no ability to dribble through over a year at UK, is playing the 4 alongside Ware at the 5.
Wheeler had a good, not great game. But he failed in the clutch, I think 2-4 at the line and missed that layup, but did hit a big 3.
Wallace played very good, except in the clutch, with 2-3 TOs and 2-4 at the line all late in the game.
Reeves did not show up, nor did Fredrick. And Toppin only did for 2-3 plays. If even just 1 of those 3 plays well, plays average, we WIN.
Wallace played very good, except in the clutch, with 2-3 TOs and 2-4 at the line all late in the game.
Reeves did not show up, nor did Fredrick. And Toppin only did for 2-3 plays. If even just 1 of those 3 plays well, plays average, we WIN.
I definitely mentioned it in other threads -- CJ and Collins were total duds , most dissappointed in CJ , he's a veteran of college games but looked intimidated ... he did his Grady impersonation.
I've mentioned it multiple times. He lost us the game. And he had TWO chances to win the game. (Yes I'm banking on Mich St not hitting a 3 to tie it either time)
Wallace is a big time recruit. I dont care that he's a freshman. Make your damn free throws, especially when you get TWO cracks at it. And on a neutral court. No excuses.
Agree.
Those 2 free throws cost us the game. No denying that.
He can’t lead a team to a final four and that’s all we care about. Cason has got to develop by March.
Once people force Wheeler right he’s pretty much done. Wheeler forced right with under 10 on the shot clock is never or very seldomly going to end well.
I would say any player we have forced in any direction against the shot clock is not gonna end well.
Yes this kills us. You surrounded Wheeler with shooters and we kick the hell out of Michigan state. It's not Wheeler it's all these one dimensional players that can't shoot or dribble that are on the floor
I don’t see anyone pumping Wheeler and his assist totals against Gonzaga. Oh, wait, he doesn’t have any.
Yeah how did we look after the foul trouble he got in princess?