NCAA apologies to Ole Miss...

[KeyserSoze1999]

Fresh news hot off the Printing Press...per Yancy the NCAA investigation into the Tunsil NFL Draft Night situation is going very well. The NCAA is just really tired and wants to settle this matter quickly and could end it by October this year.

Not sure if Ole Miss will get the Silver Medal for NCAA Compliance and Exemplary Cooperation or if they will only receive the Bronze Medal for NCAA Compliance and Exemplary Cooperation. But either way it goes, Ole Miss will be praised and us poor Leg Humpers will be disappointed

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[aTotal360]

Is that a real post by Bruiser? If someone over here would have made that exact comment about Will Redmond, he and the rest of Nafoom would have **** a collective brick.

 

[Drebin]

Sounds plausible **

 

[1msucub]

I'll say it again....when this is all over, SOMEBODY is going to look like one gigantic fool. The two sides' "highest" sources couldn't be farther apart in what they are spewing.

Free entertainment, for sure.

 

[AlCoDog]

I've been hearing Bruiser is on the NCAA list to be questioned because he is a very important and prominent person.

 

[engie]

How many things can one possibly get wrong -- in a row -- before they stop prognosticating?

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

That is 100% a real Bruisy post, however it is only the Top half of his long post---I would need 2 or 3 screen shots to get the whole post.

Granted I regularly and gleefully add logos & photos to their posts but 9 times outta 10 the posts / text that I include is untouched---there is no need to add anything to make their posts look crazy when their posts are already Bat **** Crazy to begin with.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Why would they be buying

jewelry? That's pretty racist to assume. I can't say I'm surprised.

 

[121Josey]

Let me get this straight. They are saying that no university funds were misappropriated? Well then, we've misunderstood those text messages because they were clearly asking for university funds. T$UNil's request was denied because the coaches don't coordinate payments from boosters. Case closed.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Bruiser needs to change his handle to AllisWellReb. Grand Poobah of The Douche Cult.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Like a degenerate gambler...Lose, Double or Nothing...Lose, Double or Nothing...Lose, Double or Nothing...Lose, Double or Nothing.......Win, CASH OUT!!! CASH OUT!!! CASH OUT!!!

 

[maroonmania]

I would expect nothing less from the crew that were totally denying an NCAA investigation even existed until the NOA was formally delivered.

 

[fishwater99]

Wow.. If any of this was true they would have had Fat Hugh and the CL all over it with a Front Page article.

I am calling major BS..

 

[Drebin]

Wow.. If any of this was true they would have had Fat Hugh and the CL all over it with a Front Page article.

I am calling major BS..

Huge Hugh is working on it. The wifi at the No. 1 China Buffet went out.

 

[ShrubDog]

They are saying there will be no new Tunsil stuff coming in the future. As a matter of fact they expect the ncaa to except their 11 scholarship reductions or decrease them if one of the level ones is reduced. If not it could increase to 12.

 

[MaroonNation]

Is that a real post by Bruiser? Ibrick.

You know it is authentic bruiser when he added "I had been hearing about it weeks ago". Like a Saban quote without "amirite?" Ain't a Saban quote.

 

[jb1020]

Yancy and chuck could tell their followers

They could eat with their butt holes and crap out of theirs mouths and I really think 9/10 followers would go home and give it a shot. I wish they could prove me wrong.

 

[ckDOG]

Whoa whoa whoa. Bruiser is a delusional 17.

1) The opportunity fund exists to fill the gap between existing aid and full cost of attendance. Full cost of attendance = tuition, residential hall housing, and meals allowance. Not momma's light bills. Not for private housing. For those 3 things only.
2) The opportunity fund is administered by the financial aid department, not by anyone in the football department.
3) The opportunity fund is annually renewed. You don't get to hit it up as needed. The gap between aid and cost in a school year is fixed. It doesn't fluctuate. Simple math.

It's all here in very clear wording: http://finaid.olemiss.edu/ole-miss-opportunity-program/

 

[aTotal360]

 

[BossDawg78]

I'll say it again....when this is all over, SOMEBODY is going to look like one gigantic fool. The two sides' "highest" sources couldn't be farther apart in what they are spewing.

Strange, isn't it? Just the other night everybody was saying UM had received NOA #2, then just like that, the rumor disappeared just as quick as it surfaced. On the other hand, all is well in Oxford according to their minions.

Our boosters and such better get ready to step up their game just in case UM gets off with little more than a good scolding, if that

 

[Dawgzilla]

The UMiss message board "narrative" has been confusing the Opportunity Fund with the Student Assistance Fund, intended for student athletes. I have no idea if "mama's light bill" is a permissible expense under the Student Assistance Fund -- particularly if Tunsil was not living at his mom's house -- but the expense would have needed to be approved by the SEC back in 2015 anyway. If they have all the paperwork in order and the SEC approved it, then they might get away with it:

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2013+Student+Assistance+Fund.pdf

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...s-seeking-money-from-the-SAF&highlight=tunsil

On Aug. 8, 2014, Judge Claudia Wilken ruled against the NCAA in a case brought by former UCLA basketball player Ed O'Bannon. One of the stipulations in Wilken's ruling was that schools were no longer allowed to make rules that capped scholarships below the actual cost-of-attendance figure the schools reported to the federal government. This meant that schools could offer the difference between tuition, room and board and the actual cost of attendance as a cash stipend. In the case of Ole Miss, that amount is $4,500. But here's the catch. Schools didn't start offering those stipends until the 2015–16 school year. Yet because they had to comply with the federal court ruling, they could provide up to that amount for an athlete using the NCAA's Student Assistance Fund. This is a pool of cash—which also has its roots in a federal lawsuit—available to schools to use when players face a sudden need. The usual example here is the cost of traveling home to a family member's funeral. Recently, schools have also used this fund to purchase disability and/or loss-of-value insurance policies for their best football and basketball players.


In the 2014–15 academic year, when those texts were allegedly sent, a school could have used money from the SAF to pay a player up to the difference between his scholarship and the actual cost of attendance. In that case, Ole Miss could have given Tunsil up to $4,500. This window closed when the Rebels began to offer cost-of-attendance stipends, but it was open during the dates in question, according to people with knowledge of the NCAA's compliance interpretations at the time.


This explanation would only be accepted if Ole Miss documented all payments to Tunsil as such when they happened. SEC schools are required to log all their SAF disbursements with the conference office. If there's a record of those payments to Tunsil, voila. The Rebels were simply complying with the court's ruling. This wouldn't satisfy rival fans and coaches who thirst for NCAA-related blood to be spilled in Oxford, but it would keep the wolves at bay in this particular instance.


If, however, there is no record of payments being made through the SAF and the texts are verified as real, that becomes a much bigger problem for Ole Miss. Then the Rebels would face the kind of NCAA scrutiny their rivals have predicted since they landed the prized 2013 recruiting class that included '16 first-round picks Tunsil, Robert Nkemdiche and Laquon Treadwell.

 

[ckDOG]

Right. This is a possibilty, but there is extra burden.

The UMiss message board "narrative" has been confusing the Opportunity Fund with the Student Assistance Fund, intended for student athletes. I have no idea if "mama's light bill" is a permissible expense under the Student Assistance Fund -- particularly if Tunsil was not living at his mom's house -- but the expense would have needed to be approved by the SEC back in 2015 anyway. If they have all the paperwork in order and the SEC approved it, then they might get away with it:

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2013+Student+Assistance+Fund.pdf

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...s-seeking-money-from-the-SAF&highlight=tunsil

On Aug. 8, 2014, Judge Claudia Wilken ruled against the NCAA in a case brought by former UCLA basketball player Ed O'Bannon. One of the stipulations in Wilken's ruling was that schools were no longer allowed to make rules that capped scholarships below the actual cost-of-attendance figure the schools reported to the federal government. This meant that schools could offer the difference between tuition, room and board and the actual cost of attendance as a cash stipend. In the case of Ole Miss, that amount is $4,500. But here's the catch. Schools didn't start offering those stipends until the 2015–16 school year. Yet because they had to comply with the federal court ruling, they could provide up to that amount for an athlete using the NCAA's Student Assistance Fund. This is a pool of cash—which also has its roots in a federal lawsuit—available to schools to use when players face a sudden need. The usual example here is the cost of traveling home to a family member's funeral. Recently, schools have also used this fund to purchase disability and/or loss-of-value insurance policies for their best football and basketball players.


In the 2014–15 academic year, when those texts were allegedly sent, a school could have used money from the SAF to pay a player up to the difference between his scholarship and the actual cost of attendance. In that case, Ole Miss could have given Tunsil up to $4,500. This window closed when the Rebels began to offer cost-of-attendance stipends, but it was open during the dates in question, according to people with knowledge of the NCAA's compliance interpretations at the time.


This explanation would only be accepted if Ole Miss documented all payments to Tunsil as such when they happened. SEC schools are required to log all their SAF disbursements with the conference office. If there's a record of those payments to Tunsil, voila. The Rebels were simply complying with the court's ruling. This wouldn't satisfy rival fans and coaches who thirst for NCAA-related blood to be spilled in Oxford, but it would keep the wolves at bay in this particular instance.


If, however, there is no record of payments being made through the SAF and the texts are verified as real, that becomes a much bigger problem for Ole Miss. Then the Rebels would face the kind of NCAA scrutiny their rivals have predicted since they landed the prized 2013 recruiting class that included '16 first-round picks Tunsil, Robert Nkemdiche and Laquon Treadwell.

If those texts are real, then the SAF funding not only needs approval, but it needs to be approved for helping with rent and mother's utilities. Since the purpose of the lawsuit was to cover the gap between aid and tuition, room & board (university owned only), the rent part probably won't be backed up. I doubt the utilities angle would either.

If they were using the SAF in response to these communications from Tunsil, my guess is they were submitting the requests under something more likely to get approved or perhaps even under another student's name. I believe there was a rumor a while back about having payments to football players funneled through athletes in other programs to establish some kind of plausible deniability. Anyhow, I doubt very seriously there is paperwork sitting in the SEC office approving payments to Tunsil for help with his off campus rent or his mother's utility bills.

 

[preacher_dawg]

If there is a legitimate reason for the texts, then why did the hacker go to the trouble of hacking and posting, thus probably breaking a number of laws? And then why did Tunsil then act so awkwardly and guilty?

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Oh that dastardly Hacker! Whenever he is caught by Interpol, I hope they take his apple juice away....permanently.**

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[woozman]

Sounds like Bruiser needs to trade in that Scout Subscription for a Rivals one. McCready has started to prep the OM flock.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

What is he saying?

 

[BossDawg78]

Sounds like Bruiser needs to trade in that Scout Subscription for a Rivals one. McCready has started to prep the OM flock.

Aaaaaaaaannd??.....

 

[Shmuley]

He is McCreadying them for anal penetration. Brace yourself, Essie.

 

[woozman]

Nothing earth shattering, just not pumping any sunshine like Yancy (apparently Yancy's "new info" was based on a pep talk that their Chancellor gave in Dallas this week and Neal wasn't necessarily buying it). He has also alluded to several times (on his podcast) that the NCAA could very well hammer OM over the academic fraud even if they can't prove other things that they have suspicions about.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Thanks