OT: GoT Finale

[The Maroon Pug]

Here is a recap of last weeks episode..

https://youtu.be/2O6PZx5KlIA

Who dies tonight? My entries into the deadpool are:

-Anyone in Kings Landing
-Anyone within 20 miles of The Wall

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Cersei is about to go nuts and burn Kings Landing to the ground with wildfire.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

-no one at winterfell
-tommen, margery, all the faith people, probably all the tyrells, probably all of kl besides cersei
-all the freys
-no one across the water. final scene will probably be dany coming to westeros

 

[aTotal360]

Melisandre revives Ramsey...

 

[11thEagleFan]

That would be great. He's all 17ed up now, literally a threat to no one. Let Sansa kill him again.

 

[The Maroon Pug]

Ramsey = Lord Stoneheart??

 

[Crucifictorious]

R + L = J
The King in the North!!
It had everything I could want and more. I'm afraid that Littlefinger won't stop until the Iron Throne is his.
Dany has her own Armada. Prepare for D-Day!

 

[mcdawg22]

Miguel Sapochnik shows he can direct a great "slow" episode as well. Just a great episode. Arya redeemed herself for the Braavos shitshow.​

 

[11thEagleFan]

"The North knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is Stark."

Come on Jon, drop the "Snow" moniker now. You're the mother17'n KITN!

Cersei burns everyone, declares herself queen. Jaime will suspect she offed Tommen and snuff her.

Dany... What else is there to conquer? She now effectively rules the Free Cities, Dorne, the Iron Islands, and the Reach.

Mmmm... Loved a taste of Frey Pie.

 

[engie]

Yep.

Might have been the best episode of the series so far. Probably was. So much closure, with so many new doors opened and so much hype for next season. Last season left me feeling totally defeated. This one is probably the first of the series resulting in a net positive. So much awesome.

That music for KL was just beautiful. So foreboding. It's sticking with me just like Rains of Castamere.

 

[The Maroon Pug]

Episode 9 was the most entertaining episode this season, but Episode 10 was the best all around episode.

I actually sorta of kinda like Dorne in the show for once. Anyone else notice the Sun/Spear sails in Dany's fleet??

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Hey, OleMissLogo, you still don't think Cersei knows where the wildfire is you **********?
DAKINGINDANORF!

 

[amcdan2000]

Finally know Jon's heritage. I wonder why Ned never told him his parents were. The mad king is dead so he shouldnt be any threat to him.

 

[engie]

Finally know Jon's heritage. I wonder why Ned never told him his parents were. The mad king is dead so he shouldnt be any threat to him.

You are seriously suggesting that the mad king was the threat to the Targaryen offspring?

The threat to him was very, very much alive when Ned left for King's Landing. Rewatch the scene where he quits as hand and storms out when Robert demands they assassinate Daenerys...It all made sense then and it all makes sense now...

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

She whispered 'Robert will kill him, you know it' or something like that, I couldn't completely make it out. You think Robert would let the offspring of his betrothed and Rhaegar Tagaryen live? Hellllll no.

Also, where the 17 was ghost again?

 

[MaroonNation]

Has to be a record for number of main characters killed in a single episode.

 

[The Maroon Pug]

Ghost doing ghost-like things i guess..

 

[OleMissLogo]

I never said she didn't. I figured she would want to use wildfire for something eventually (though I thought Jaime would kill her before she could).

I just said I didn't think the little birds rumor was the wildfire.

 

[Shamoan]

Whelp, tommen ends up being the inbred ***** we all knew he was. Awesome episode. John snow's new background was nice as was the king of the north scene. That little chick has some balls. Love that character.

 

[Xenomorph]

Im in awe of how good that was...

It crossed my mind a couple of weeks ago that Dany might marry Tyrion to lay a claim to house Lannister. Dinkledge just did the impossible in that scene with her... He actually created some chemistry with her. He's the best actor in the series.

Well we finally learn Jon Snow is not Ned Stark's son just as the entire north is pledging loyalty to him because he's Ned Stark's son. That's going to be Little finger's play eventually.

What was whispered to Ned before she said Robert would kill him??

Really they could just delete Dorne from GoT... I can't see where those 4 talentless actresses will play an important part... Maybe Cersi will run into them or something.

Grandma Tyrell is great... She's like Jackie Gleeson in Smokey and the Bandit... Verbally ***** slapping everybody who comes in range.

Jon never should have let the witch leave. Mistake.

I want to hang out with Bron one night...

so so glad I didn't know Arya was showing up. Never crossed my mind that she was the waitress.

Tommen doing the Peter Pan... Wow. Never saw that coming either.

Dammit man... I'd sacrifice the entire upcoming football season of getting to watch Bama win another natty if we could see the last 10 episodes of the series right now.

I hope HBO never goes to a format like Netflix where they dump all the episodes at once. These last several weeks have been great with all the discussion.

 

[Shamoan]

Ok. Full disclosure, I have been watching intermittently since season 2, but what is going on with john snow? His mom is apparently his aunt, but who is his real dad? Are we to believe that she was raped as they said? Somebody connect the dots for me. Did what we saw confirm his real claim to the northern throne or no? And what was whispered between Ned and his sister?

Also, what was the significance of the birds stabbing the grand maester ? He was such a sweet old man**

 

[Shamoan]

No way he offs his ***

 

[Shamoan]

Meant to '41 it, not '88 it.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Jon Snow's father is Rhaegar Targaryen, the son of the Mad King. It appears the relationship between Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar was consensual. Meaning that if Targaryen hereditary right is followed, Jon would be the rightful king (not Dany, his aunt). I personally would rather see Jon adopt the Stark name and rule as King in the North, even if he does find out his true heritage. Ned had to claim him as his bastard son or Robert Baratheon would have killed him. Ned couldn't even tell Catelyn, as I assume he thought Catelyn might tell someone out of fear for her own children's safety. Who knows?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

When they kept the frame on the window after Tommen walked off I knew he was about to jump.

 

[aerodawg.sixpack]

As the people were making their little speeches and stuff in Winterfel I thought Howland Reed might make an appearance. I don't think anyone is going to know Jon's true heritage until Howland Reed tells Jon first. I mean I guess Bran could run into him, but unless he investigates it further, all he knows is that Jon Snow is Lyanna's son. Deductive reasoning would say that he is Rhaegar's son, but its not like this kid had much education and they definitely muted what Lyanna said for a reason.

I was surprised they so quickly named Jon Snow King of the North without Sansa being the first to suggest it. I guess maybe she did off-screen and that was the whole reason for the feast. Also Littlefinger's half smile has me worried.

 

[Rockydawg]

"Well we finally learn Jon Snow is not Ned Stark's son just as the entire north is pledging loyalty to him because he's Ned Stark's son. That's going to be Little finger's play eventually."

Stating the obvious, But Little Finger doesn't have a play, but he does not know that. Because nobody knows yet that Jon Snow is a Targaryen which makes him not only Lord of the North, but the rightful Lord of ALL of Westeros. The Iron Throne is his.

"Jon never should have let the witch leave. Mistake."

I think she is key to the Targaryen connection. As far as we know, Bran is the only one who knows Jon's true identity right now.... But something tells me Melisandre figures it out when she makes it south. She is not vengeful. She will seek redemption instead.

 

[mcdawg22]

When they kept the frame on the window after Tommen walked off I knew he was about to jump.

What's funny is we were having bad storms going through, so I thought the TV froze, I hit ffwd on the remote so he ran to his death.

 

[aTotal360]

Lost Ramsey last week. The High Septon this week. At least we still have Cersei to cheer for.

 

[PBRME]

A girl is about to 17 some people up.

 

[msstatelp1]

Whelp, tommen ends up being the inbred ***** we all knew he was. Awesome episode. John snow's new background was nice as was the king of the north scene. That little chick has some balls. Love that character.

If Jon was smart he'd wait for Lady Mormont to come of age and wife her. She's had his back twice now. As it is I think he winds up with either Dany or Sansa.

 

[engie]

Stating the obvious, But Little Finger doesn't have a play, but he does not know that. Because nobody knows yet that Jon Snow is a Targaryen which makes him not only Lord of the North, but the rightful Lord of ALL of Westeros. The Iron Throne is his.

People like to think this because of how tidy it is toward an endgame -- but there was conquest. The previous regime has no birthrights post-conquest. Hence why Dany has to conquer to sit the chair in the same way Jon would have to conquer to sit the chair. It takes us jumping through hoops on polygamy for him not to be a Targ bastard anyway. But the show has made it pretty clear that you can't count on them to follow the "rules" on this stuff. Hence why Cersei was named last night when it should have been Jaime by the laws of the time that the show has established. Especially after his KG dismissal putting him in his rightful place in lines of succession again.

 

[engie]

If Jon was smart he'd wait for Lady Mormont to come of age and wife her. She's had his back twice now. As it is I think he winds up with either Dany or Sansa.

Marriage in that world is for alliances. He gains nothing by forming alliances with people he already has alliances with. Same is true for Sansa. They neither gain anything from that.

Jon obviously would gain the most from Dany. But it seems a bit too obvious from a storytelling perspective. The only other highborn lady the show has introduced us to that could actually bring something tangible to the table for Jon is Sam's sister. Especially now that the Tyrells are gone and there will be a power vacuum in the Reach with Tarly being one of 4-5 logical claimants to Highgarden(lady Olenna is a Redwyne). That part is a mess now that I don't expect to see in the books with 3 Tyrell sons, all badasses, and all in different places. It could potentially not even be addressed in the show. Sansa has more options.

 

[aTotal360]

I think Littlefinger is fully aware of R+L=J. If I remember correctly, he made an offhanded comment about it to Sansa some seasons ago in the Winterfell crypt. It won't do him any good to tell anyone so he won't.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Very true. We're assuming that Jon is legitimate because Targaryen kings have been polygamous in the past. Jaime has no claim to the Iron Throne, although since he was kicked out of the Kingsguard, he's the rightful lord of Casterly Rock and the Westerlands. Cersei is queen because there's literally no one left. She is basically succeeding as a Baratheon, not a Lannister. She's the widow of Robert and the mother of Tommen. Remember that she had all of Robert's bastards killed (except Gendry, who no one knows about).

 

[Xenomorph]

In google, when you type the words "what did".. the top hit is..

"What did Lyanna say to Ned?"

So what is Jon Snow's real name?.. Cause that's what she told Ned. She whispered his real name. Obviously Ned changed it to Jon Snow on the trip home.

What's his real name and can we go a year without the internet spoiling it?

 

[engie]

That's not how it was actually set up to work via the show. "No more than there has ever been a queen in Westeros"(although the books had several). There was plenty of times when the succession was muddied -- and a couple of Great Councils called to determine the next king. Maester Aemon's younger brother "Egg"(Jon's great grandfather) was chosen by great council and was a 4th and youngest Targ son.

 

[aTotal360]

Question: Euron's dragon horn HAS to come into play, right? The dragons seem a little OP at the moment. What can even put up a fight with 3 dragons? The Bard?

 

[engie]

Question: Euron's dragon horn HAS to come into play, right? The dragons seem a little OP at the moment. What can even put up a fight with 3 dragons? The Bard?

Dorne established the method for fighting dragons a long time ago, hence why they are "Unbowed, unbent, unbroken". Spread out and not huddled in castles. The Targs could never find them in great enough numbers to conquer them. But the Rock seems pretty dragon proof since it's almost all underground. Without Tyrion("father put me in charge of the cisterns at Casterly Rock"), they would have a difficult time there...

 

[MaroonNation]

In an interview with Business Insider, Sapochnik explained why Jon Snow's trusty direwolf didn't appear in Season 6's penultimate episode, saying, "[Ghost] was in there in spades originally, but it's also an incredibly time consuming and expensive character to bring to life. Ultimately we had to choose between Wun-Wun and the direwolf, so the dog bit the dust."