Buy or sell..
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It's hard to say. I would lean toward buy. But what's funny is, sorry Mike Bianchi, Ole Miss and State are huge fulcrum points to the popularity. When we are good at Baseball we put 12K in the stands and have a large fanbase following online, when we are bad we are at 5k and nobody logs on. It's the same in basketball. Ole Miss is the same way, put a top 20 team in the new basketball arena and they are crushing it. But if the baseball team struggles, it's gonna be a Triple H size liquid spewing in Right Field. Meanwhile huge success at Bama, Au, Ark, and LSU doesn't move the needle much. LSU of course being unlike the others.
I suspect just the share from the ncaa basketball tournament comes close to the total revenues from baseball. in the early 2000's, baseball lost money and basketball netted a few million. The gap has probably narrowed, but I'm guessing not that much.
I'd say it's equal with Auburn not really giving a crap about either.
| Team | Baseball | Basketball | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Alabama | Baseball | < | Basketball |
| Arkansas | Baseball | < | Basketball |
| Auburn | Baseball | = | Basketball |
| LSU | Baseball | > | Basketball |
| Mississippi State | Baseball | > | Basketball |
| Mississippi | Baseball | > | Basketball |
| A&M | Baseball | < | Basketball |
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Sell.
We've been down in basketball, but when we're good I think the majority of State fans would give hoops the nod. Plus, TV ratings for SECW basketball destroy baseball ratings.
We've been down in basketball, but when we're good I think the majority of State fans would give hoops the nod. Plus, TV ratings for SECW basketball destroy baseball ratings.
I guess that was my point. I was trying to separate the last few years of SECBasketball from my opinion since the league has struggled.
I think SECBaseball is a bigger deal on message boards than in real life. I don't hear people talking SECBaseball when I go out to dinner or get my haircut.
I think SECBaseball is a bigger deal on message boards than in real life. I don't hear people talking SECBaseball when I go out to dinner or get my haircut.
I remember the 1987 season when the baseball team had a better average attendance than the basketball team. Okay so I'm comparing the first year of the current stadium and a team that battled to make the SEC tournament, win, and then host a regional to Richard Williams's first team as head coach.
Sell.
Big attendance weekends in baseball correlate with good weather, ability to drink beer outside, and usually involve smoked meat of some sort. I don't think a lot of the people at LSU, UM, or MSU are there solely for baseball.
Our attendance for basketball over the last 5 years is an absolute embarrassment, but people had stopped showing up for baseball games until Cohen turned the corner to be completely fair. We have fair weather fans, and right now that pendulum is pointing in baseball's direction. Can't ever picture our fans finding the phone number of the friday night pitcher for the #1 team in the country before they come to Starkville and harassing him for a week leading up to the contest, nor can I see our student population skipping classes that day to wait in line for 7 hours in the cold to get into Dudy Noble. OR throwing **** at the refs when they botched a last minute call.
Just think it's a convenient sport for this time of the year, and we happen to usually be pretty good at it. If LSU's athletic department sanctioned a bocce ball game, 10,000 people would show up to that too.
Big attendance weekends in baseball correlate with good weather, ability to drink beer outside, and usually involve smoked meat of some sort. I don't think a lot of the people at LSU, UM, or MSU are there solely for baseball.
Our attendance for basketball over the last 5 years is an absolute embarrassment, but people had stopped showing up for baseball games until Cohen turned the corner to be completely fair. We have fair weather fans, and right now that pendulum is pointing in baseball's direction. Can't ever picture our fans finding the phone number of the friday night pitcher for the #1 team in the country before they come to Starkville and harassing him for a week leading up to the contest, nor can I see our student population skipping classes that day to wait in line for 7 hours in the cold to get into Dudy Noble. OR throwing **** at the refs when they botched a last minute call.
Just think it's a convenient sport for this time of the year, and we happen to usually be pretty good at it. If LSU's athletic department sanctioned a bocce ball game, 10,000 people would show up to that too.
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I just randomly picked a year and we did it in 2014 as well.
Baseball averaged 8100.
Basketball averaged 6800.
Baseball averaged 8100.
Basketball averaged 6800.
I just did a comparison for 2015-16 for all 7 SEC West teams...
And the only two schools where baseball draws more than basketball are us and OM. With the caveat being that I couldn't find an average baseball attendance for Arkansas for this year so had to use their record attendance for a single season (denoted with an * below) which was in either 2010 or 2013.
State
Baseball - 8,046
Basketball - 6,623
OM
Baseball - 8,579
Basketball - 7,993
Arkansas
Baseball - 6,111*
Basketball - 14,879
LSU
Baseball - 10,529
Basketball - 11,383
A&M
Baseball - 5,207
Basketball - 8,956
Bama
Baseball - 4,611
Basketball - 13,110
Auburn
Baseball - 2,796
Basketball - 8,216
And the only two schools where baseball draws more than basketball are us and OM. With the caveat being that I couldn't find an average baseball attendance for Arkansas for this year so had to use their record attendance for a single season (denoted with an * below) which was in either 2010 or 2013.
State
Baseball - 8,046
Basketball - 6,623
OM
Baseball - 8,579
Basketball - 7,993
Arkansas
Baseball - 6,111*
Basketball - 14,879
LSU
Baseball - 10,529
Basketball - 11,383
A&M
Baseball - 5,207
Basketball - 8,956
Bama
Baseball - 4,611
Basketball - 13,110
Auburn
Baseball - 2,796
Basketball - 8,216
Sell......
There is more to it than game attendance. But even considering attendance the question I would ask is what is the comparison of actual attendance vs paid? I would wager the actual attendance is closer to the paid in basketball vs baseball. The other thing is TV audience. What is the average audience for basketball vs baseball? Basketball is definitely perceived as more popular because it is MUCH more popular nationwide and gets more coverage. It also makes it a little more difficult to tease apart the regional popularity from the national but I still think hoops beats out baseball but it is much, much closer closer obviously than anywhere else in the country.
There is more to it than game attendance. But even considering attendance the question I would ask is what is the comparison of actual attendance vs paid? I would wager the actual attendance is closer to the paid in basketball vs baseball. The other thing is TV audience. What is the average audience for basketball vs baseball? Basketball is definitely perceived as more popular because it is MUCH more popular nationwide and gets more coverage. It also makes it a little more difficult to tease apart the regional popularity from the national but I still think hoops beats out baseball but it is much, much closer closer obviously than anywhere else in the country.
The fan support for basketball at Florida isn't that great either. Even in their back-to-back run, they had very little turn out at the SEC tournament or their first round regionals.
As mentioned above, there isn't a whole lot of interest in Florida basketball either. Attendance to Missouri basketball has been abysmal lately and the only time Vandy even comes close to packing the gym in basketball is when the BBN comes to town.
I would suspect that they base those numbers on tickets sold - not actual attendance. And I also suspect that Florida is not different than any other football school - the more points you accumulate by buying basketball season tickets, the better football tickets you get. When you watch their games on TV, there are a lot of empty seats.
Regardless of how they calculate attendance in either sport, Florida ranked 45th in basketball attendance this past season. They ranked 14th in baseball attendance in 2015.
That's a red herring and you should know it. Nationwide, college baseball is barely even a blip on the college sports radar. 45th in basketball attendance >>> 14th in baseball attendance.
Sell, but depends on how you define popular.
Attendance numbers, you could make the case for baseball. If you include TV viewership, it has to be basketball by a landslide. There's just many more people that will casually turn on a basketball game than go through the trouble to watch a baseball game online.
Attendance numbers, you could make the case for baseball. If you include TV viewership, it has to be basketball by a landslide. There's just many more people that will casually turn on a basketball game than go through the trouble to watch a baseball game online.
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