SEMO "Ace"

John Lorry

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Aug 22, 2012
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I thought it might be a welcome distraction from Beavergate to inject a little baseball discussion. I keep hearing about how SEMO's Joey Lucchesi is the love child of Nolan Ryan/Gregor Clegane/Bill Brasky, with his 10-4 record and ERA of 1.87. I acknowledge those are good numbers and the chatter that he's a potential first rounder, but when I took a look at the teams he pitched against, well, I was underwhelmed:

DateOpponentiphrerbbso2b3bhrwpbkhbpibbnpscorewlsvg-eras-era
2/19/2016atLamar UniversityL6.04223900001001011-20103.003.00
2/26/2016atArkansas-Pine BluffW7.000001100000008510-01000.001.38
3/4/2016Central ArkansasW7.05005900000001196-01000.000.90
3/11/2016atEastern KentuckyW9.081121310000001362-11001.000.93
3/18/2016Morehead StateW8.031131000100001325-11001.130.97
3/24/2016atUT MartinW5.273348110100011619-61004.761.48
4/1/2016SIUEW6.0500250000010999-51000.001.29
4/8/2016atAustin PeayL6.0862061000010921-60103.001.48
4/15/2016Eastern IllinoisW7.051018000000011115-11000.001.31
4/22/2016atJacksonville StateL5.0544590101100892-60107.201.75
4/28/2016Murray StateW8.0611217000100012610-31001.131.69
5/6/2016atTennessee TechL6.096431020110001182-70106.002.01
5/13/2016Stephen F AustinL7.07222821000001082-30002.572.05
5/19/2016BelmontW6.062221310110001189-21003.002.11
5/27/2016vsMorehead StateW9.07003620000001193-01000.001.93
5/29/2016vsJacksonville StateW3.01000300000003514-80010.001.87
Total105.286292237145103352201704110-5110411.87

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Again, not taking anything away from the guy--I'm sure he'll be a legitimate challenge. But at the same time, it's not like this guy was lighting up marquee programs. We've faced worst and won convincingly. Am I missing something?
 

MaroonNation

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Jun 9, 2015
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How does he compare to the Mizzou pitcher we faced. He was good too. Their best player hands down. We swept Mizzou.
 

rugbdawg

Redshirt
Oct 10, 2006
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They are a 4 seed with a legit ace. We have looked BAD at the plate our last 6 games going back to Arkansas. Hump and Lowe are in a slump. Of course there is cause for concern.
 

121Josey

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Oct 30, 2012
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You see those last two dates? If he can come back on 5-days in June and shutdown State's line-up, a tip of the cap to him. No way I would throw him on Friday.
 

11thEagleFan

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2015
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1,991
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The committee certainly didn't do State any favors with their regional draw, but I wouldn't be overly worried. I've watched A LOT of college baseball this year and I honestly think Mississippi State is one of the best 2-3 teams in the country. If State gets past SEMO's ace (they should), it'll be a cakewalk. If they somehow drop that game, I'd be scared. La Tech is more of a 2 seed than a 3. They won 40 games in C-USA this year, and beat up on Rice. I think they beat them 3 out of 5 overall, and they took a game from USM in Hattiesburg. Cal State Fullerton is always scary, but I honestly thought they should've been a 3 seed. State is obviously the superior team here though, and they'll have a hell of a home field advantage.
 

engie

Sophomore
May 29, 2011
10,764
106
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Scouts aren't looking at the competition on pitchers like him. It's all measureables. Especially now that they are into spin rate metrics and all of that stuff to go along with velocity. He's graded out extremely high for a couple of clubs.
 

CochiseCowbell

Heisman
Oct 29, 2012
15,914
15,068
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They are a 4 seed with a legit ace. We have looked BAD at the plate our last 6 games going back to Arkansas. Hump and Lowe are in a slump. Of course there is cause for concern.

You beautiful bastard. Don't stop believing, now!
 

mstateglfr

All-American
Feb 24, 2008
17,022
6,850
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****, this has RAT written all over it.

'RAT'
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
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Well he was just

named Louisville Slugger First-Team AA, and leads the nation in strikeouts, so I'd say he's pretty good...
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

All-Conference
May 28, 2007
18,207
4,353
113
Thank you. RAT is the SS with the .200 average hitting for the cycle. Or the middle reliever with 6.0 IP and a 7.0 ERA for the year shutting you out.
 

maroonmania

All-Conference
Feb 23, 2008
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named Louisville Slugger First-Team AA, and leads the nation in strikeouts, so I'd say he's pretty good...

No doubt he is quite good. Doesn't really look like he's pitched any against high level competition but if he is that high with Major League scouts I'm sure he is really good. Surprised that apparently he didn't pitch any in the 2 games they played against OM.
 

John Lorry

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Aug 22, 2012
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I agree Kurt.

named Louisville Slugger First-Team AA, and leads the nation in strikeouts, so I'd say he's pretty good...

Again, not saying he's not talented-he's had a great season.

I guess my point is, perhaps theres something to the fact that essentially all of the teams he's faced are abysmal (at least as far as RPI goes):

Lamar University - 75
Arkansas Pine Bluff - 271
Central Arkansas - 110
Eastern Kentucky - 214
Morehead State - 117
UT Martin - 266
SIUE - 281
Austin Peay - 101
Eastern Illinois - 272
Jacksonville State - 89
Murray State - 195
Tennessee Tech - 193
Stephen F Austin - 104
Belmont - 191

Average RPI - 177

That's all I'm saying. Unlike football or even basketball, there can be legit players at lesser known schools. But shirley the caliber of competition has to count for something.
 

keffer21

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
10
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"Ace"

His record in true road games is 3-4 with a 3.22 ERA. He obviously pitched really well in their neutral site conference tournament. Let's hope the fans and atmosphere get to him. He certainly hasn't pitched in this sort of environment this year.
 

Mjoelner

All-Conference
Sep 2, 2006
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Again, not saying he's not talented-he's had a great season.

I guess my point is, perhaps theres something to the fact that essentially all of the teams he's faced are abysmal (at least as far as RPI goes):

Lamar University - 75
Arkansas Pine Bluff - 271
Central Arkansas - 110
Eastern Kentucky - 214
Morehead State - 117
UT Martin - 266
SIUE - 281
Austin Peay - 101
Eastern Illinois - 272
Jacksonville State - 89
Murray State - 195
Tennessee Tech - 193
Stephen F Austin - 104
Belmont - 191

Average RPI - 177

That's all I'm saying. Unlike football or even basketball, there can be legit players at lesser known schools. But shirley the caliber of competition has to count for something.

Breaking down your numbers further, his 10 W's came against teams with an average RPI of 202 and his 4 L's against teams with an average RPI of 115 but that is skewed due to losing to Tennessee Tech with an RPI of 193.
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
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I'm not

saying he's the second coming of Cy Young, but at the same time, a pitcher's W-L record is not very important. Not to go all Will James on you.
 

keffer21

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
10
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saying he's the second coming of Cy Young, but at the same time, a pitcher's W-L record is not very important. Not to go all Will James on you.

I hear ya, and I agree on the W-L. But his road ERA being nearly double does mean something to me. That is including his no hitter @ RPI 271 AR Pine Bluff.
 
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