Freeze: "I Own It (Whatever It Is)"

[121Josey]

"But there's a big difference between making mistakes in recruiting and going out there with the intent to cheat. I don't have any information that anybody on my staff has been involved in any illegal payments to players or offering any inducements to players, and if I did have that information, I would fire them."

ESPN Article

“But I’m not going to cheat. I’m not. I’ll lose but I’m not going to cheat.”

I don’t know how to change their minds,” Freeze said. “Because if they read what’s out there and still say that (we’re cheating), I’m not sure what to do.”

Tony Barnhart Article

 

[ShrubDog]

All of the lies are getting old now.

He didn't know he couldn't bring a booster to visit...

 

[GloryDawg]

Freeze is a dick head. That spin sounds same as it did five months ago. "Nothing to see here."

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Freeze is like everyone who goes to jail. 'Didn't do it' 'Im innocent' 'Wasn't my fault!'

 

[aTotal360]

I stopped reading after DESTIN.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

+1

 

[coach66]

Is it possible that Freeze is going off the deep end. I mean damn the

allegations are damning and for him to continue to say no one willingly cheated is beyond Nuts (no pun intended).

 

[Bulldogg31]

Sociopath

 

[jb1020]

Is he screaming from the roof tops like he said 2 weeks ago on Finebaum?

Or is he owning it now?

 

[57stratdawg]

It's a tough time to have incredibly thin skin.

 

[Shmuley]

It's coming unraveled. The beaver dam is beginning to crumble.

 

[Chesusdog]

I don’t know how to change their minds,” Freeze said. “Because if they read what’s out there and still say that (we’re cheating), I’m not sure what to do.”

Step one: Stop cheating, *******.

 

[Xenomorph]

Somebody catch me up on Destin... What's that about?

)

 

[coach66]

I never thought he would be forced to resign but if he doesn't get some good

news soon he may go down.

 

[drt7891]

Didn't we fire a coach for "making a mistake in recruiting?" I wish I could "make mistakes" in my job and my boss be ok with it.

 

[DerHntr]

He's setting himself up to be the martyr in all of this. He doesn't have information, he hasn't been told by his staff of intent, he hasn't been told what boosters do, he trusts people blindly because WWJD, it was before his time, etc. He is using ignorance as his shield and it goes well with his "golly gee shucks fake Christian choir boy" persona. Then he ends the conversation by telling everyone his poor little feelings have been hurt because OM's reputation has been damaged on his watch. We should all feel sorry for him because he was taken advantage of. Ridiculous.

 

[patdog]

Sociopath

Yep. Ive thought that for a while now.

 

[121Josey]

Is it possible that Freeze is going off the deep end. I mean damn the allegations are damning and for him to continue to say no one willingly cheated is beyond Nuts (no pun intended).

Schizophrenia. Or maybe it's hypocrisy. Neither is a formidable defense in the court of public opinion.

 

[DerHntr]

Also.... Why don't they ask him why he won't do the deposition in the Tunsil case unsealed if he is so ignorant to what is going on? The NCAA shouldn't be able to find out anything new if he is so much in the dark.

 

[coach66]

The NCAA fixed that loophole right after our case. He can't use this defense.

As head coach he can not claim plausible deniability. He does own everything and he will be held accountable for everything by the NCAA under new rules.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Didn't he say he knew everything his staff did and was certain they did things the right way a few months back? Anyone got a link to that statement? NCAA doesn't accept ignorance of the rules as an excuse.

 

[121Josey]

He's setting himself up to be the martyr in all of this. He doesn't have information, he hasn't been told by his staff of intent, he hasn't been told what boosters do, he trusts people blindly because WWJD, it was before his time, etc. He is using ignorance as his shield and it goes well with his "golly gee shucks fake Christian choir boy" persona.

Failure. To. Monitor.

 

[drt7891]

All the while, he stands up on the podium after flipping everyone else's recruits and claims they do things "the right way." Then challenges people to report improprieties (and they do). You can't have this both ways, Hugh. If you do things the right way while flipping high profile, blue chip recruits that, in some cases, have no business visiting OM, you better back it up. And you are not. Simple statements don't count anymore, you better walk the talk.

I don't feel one bit sorry for him or OM. He/they asked for this.

 

[DerHntr]

As head coach he can not claim plausible deniability. He does own everything and he will be held accountable for everything by the NCAA under new rules.

I'm not saying the NCAA will care. They'll do what they have to do. I'm saying Hugh Freeze will save himself first in all of this and he'll do it with the martyr persona. The hard core OM holy rollers will eat it up.

 

[Tin Cup Cowboy]

I'm not a really religious guy, but this just seems to fly in the face of what I would think a christian should be saying/doing.

"My wife (Jill) just asked me, ‘Hugh, what should I pray that you want the end game to be?’ he said. “I said that they (the NCAA) accept the penalties that we self-imposed. I wish somebody would say, ‘Look, they’ve (NCAA) been there four years and the staff is not buying players.’ ”

 

[msstate7]

Also.... Why don't they ask him why he won't do the deposition in the Tunsil case unsealed if he is so ignorant to what is going on? The NCAA shouldn't be able to find out anything new if he is so much in the dark.

I wish you had media credentials. Good question to ask hugh

 

[coach66]

Somewhere Pete Boone has got to be laughing his *** off. He wouldn't play ball

so they fired him and now look what it got em. I talked to Boone on a plane one day for a couple of hours, the guy impressed the hell out of me.

 

[drt7891]

Boone didn't play ball, but he played a part in setting the stage for this.

 

[coach66]

You mean them forcing him to hire Coach O who got the ball rolling?

nm

 

[DerHntr]

I'm not a really religious guy, but this just seems to fly in the face of what I would think a christian should be saying/doing.

You'd be surprised. Knew a guy that had a very in your face, Hugh Freeze religious type wife. She was at our house for dinner. She told a story about praying for clothes on sale for the school year because they were in a bind financially. She went to Kohl's and found exactly what she needed. "It's a God thing" she exclaimed. Me: "It's a discount store with all clothes on sale all the time."

 

[Original48]

I'm not a really religious guy, but this just seems to fly in the face of what I would think a christian should be saying/doing.

I'm all for specific prayer but yeah..just a bit self serving here.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Son of a ***** was "off the deep end" in 2013 when he was attempting to defend/rationalize his 2013 recruiting class on social media. I always thought that was bizarre as hell.

 

[bulldognation]

So his denial is based on him and his staff not knowingly breaking the rules.

I'll try that statement the next time a state trooper pulls me over for doing 110 on I-20.

Being ignorant of the law does not make you immune from it.

You make waaaay too much money, Hugh, to not know the rules of your game or the actions of your asst. coaches.

 

[drt7891]

OM admin or his fan base won't force him to resign. I've never seen anything like this. They still don't believe they did anything wrong and the ones that do, don't have a loud enough voice. They may fire Bjork as a peace offering, though. Hugh is too "religious" (pious is a better word) for a lot of them to see this for what it is.

The only way High loses in this is a show-cause.

 

[00Dawg]

Well, either his staff is cheating, or they're incompetent.

They have to know the rules of their jobs. Heck, all I get is a pamphlet from State a couple of times a year, and I know what they did was against the rules.
Pretty obvious Hugh has reading comprehension issues as well, since this:
"There is no charge in these allegations of a staff member being involved in a payment or offering extra benefits. There's none of that in there."
is in direct contrast to Kiffin letting recruits sleep over during visits, and Nix arranging housing for recruits near the academic center.

He may be trying to get away by including specifically "payment" and "offering", but the latter is implied.
Notice also that he doesn't address the latest Tunsil allegations.

 

[121Josey]

I never thought he would be forced to resign but if he doesn't get some good news soon he may go down.

Remember that contract extension (off the back of the alleged UF offer) in the two weeks between the Sugar Bowl and the NOA? Thanks Bjork!

 

[DerHntr]

Just realized something: not only did they release everything on a three day holiday weekend, they also timed it so that Hugh could respond publicly the day before the SEC spring meeting. He's going to manage the message in the media today before seeing his competition tomorrow.

With so much coordination in their actions, it seems a bit odd that they are apparently extremely incompetent in knowing and following the rules.

 

[jb1020]

I hope he stays really

assuming they get USCw type treatment and we see him play with a roster of about 55 scholarship players. Let OM turn on him the old fashioned way, see him go 2-10 in front of about 15-25k in the new and improved Vaught Hemingway Stadium for the next few years.

They simply can't run him off...he knows where all the bodies are buried.

 

[patdog]

So his denial is based on him and his staff not knowingly breaking the rules.

I hate to tell him, but it's his 17ing job to know the rules and to make sure neither he nor his staff breaks them. Under the new enforcement rules, if anyone on staff breaks a rule, Freeze is presumed to have knowledge of it.

 

[coach66]

At this point I'm not so sure Hugh trying to manage the message is a good

strategy. Some of the media is about to go head hunting. He has lied to them and made them to look like fools. Some of them will
not take kindly to being used.