Kingsley is draft eligible

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Of course Cal should bring in a kid who MAY move on after a year -- just like when top talent is drafted in the first round.

What are you freakin' blabbing about? Do you even know how many years Cal has left ships in his pocket? What's the difference between Sharpe and holding on to an unused ship? What's the difference signing Ugonna and pocketing a ship?

One difference is that guys like Sharpe and Ugonna provide excellent practice bodies.

I am not just aiming this at y'all. It's for anyone else who doesn't understand this ****.
Ships in his pocket? Are you blabbing about scholarships or championships? He has left several on the table. We are now the university of practice bodies I guess.
 

seccats04

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I mean then entire fan base. Because you’ve got guys like me that while I’m pissed at Cal, I’m pleased with this off season and recruiting for next year. I’m holding reservations on the on court stuff of course. That remains to be seen.
But him doing that AGAIN? Would set the remaining neutral and slight Cal likers off a cliff.

There’s no way he’s that stupid.
He's not that stupid. But he is that arrogant. It would not shock me in the least if this happened again.
 
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Cal Haters: Here we go again. Cal non-haters: He's not a lottery or first rounder, not gonna happen.

Cue up five or six pages of the above ad nauseam.
 
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docholiday51

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Saying 0-2 because Diallo wasn't a top 20 pick is being annoying selective. He stayed, it worked out.

If Kingsley for some reason doesn't play this year, guess what, he's going to enter the draft for feedback and definitely not be a first round pick.
Not being selective at all, Diallo waited till the very last minute before opting to return. Diallo would have gone if he had gotten assurance he would have been a higher draft pick. The biggest difference is that Sharpe and Diallo came in at mid season. In this climate of college basketball red shirts are useless(especially at UK)
Glad the kid is here, hope he plays here but nothing is a sure thing at UK
 
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Not being selective at all, Diallo waited till the very last minute before opting to return. Diallo would have gone if he had gotten assurance he would have been a higher draft pick. The biggest difference is that Sharpe and Diallo came in at mid season. In this climate of college basketball red shirts are useless(especially at UK)
Glad the kid is here, hope he plays here but nothing is a sure thing at UK
But it’s still not 0-2 if Diallo actually returned even if he really wanted to leave . This situation is closer to that than Sharpe
 

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I mean then entire fan base. Because you’ve got guys like me that while I’m pissed at Cal, I’m pleased with this off season and recruiting for next year. I’m holding reservations on the on court stuff of course. That remains to be seen.
But him doing that AGAIN? Would set the remaining neutral and slight Cal likers off a cliff.

There’s no way he’s that stupid.
There's no way he's that stupid...I fear he may be that arrogant
 

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I’ve said before that I don’t think this is the same as the Sharpe situation. That being said, Cal needs to put this young man on the floor in mop up minutes of the first blowout game next season.

Failing to do so will be creating an unnecessary distraction. Having a freshman who barely plays because he isn’t good enough is no big deal. Even if he leaves, no big deal. Players leave all the time.

We can’t have another player who is able to play and simply doesn’t. I have to believe a majority of the fan base feels this way.
 

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Well if the NBA is starved for a borderline 4/5 star 7 footer who has shown nothing at the college level and is freshly 18 years old during the 2023 draft. then so be it.

But not every player is Shaedon Sharpe, he has the measurables and the recruiting rank that an NBA team will take a flyer on him with the 7th pick. Kingsley isn't Shaedon in terms of being an NBA draft prospect.
 

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Cal doesn't redshirt players. He's not staying 4 yrs anyway, so what's the point?

As for the question of if he's eligible for draft. US born players - 1 year out of high school. Foreign born players - Automatically eligible at 22. But can declare at 19. Forgetting NCAA bullsh$t, once they play at a US College there might be a question on a reclassified player....assuming he is 19 by the deadline, is he also 1 year removed from high school?
 
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I mean then entire fan base. Because you’ve got guys like me that while I’m pissed at Cal, I’m pleased with this off season and recruiting for next year. I’m holding reservations on the on court stuff of course. That remains to be seen.
But him doing that AGAIN? Would set the remaining neutral and slight Cal likers off a cliff.

There’s no way he’s that stupid.

Hes not stupid. You’re miss understanding what he is.

What he is, is a guy that doesn’t care. Calipari has said repeatedly He will do whatever he can do help a draft stock. He’s player first, win second. If he thinks he will help this player get to the draft quietly by redshirting, that’s what he’s going to do.
 

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Hes not stupid. You’re miss understanding what he is.

What he is, is a guy that doesn’t care. Calipari has said repeatedly He will do whatever he can do help a draft stock. He’s player first, win second. If he thinks he will help this player get to the draft quietly by redshirting, that’s what he’s going to do.
Do you think Barney said anything to Cal about Sharpe?
 

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Hes not stupid. You’re miss understanding what he is.

What he is, is a guy that doesn’t care. Calipari has said repeatedly He will do whatever he can do help a draft stock. He’s player first, win second. If he thinks he will help this player get to the draft quietly by redshirting, that’s what he’s going to do.
I don't think Cal thought "not playing Sharpe was going to help his draft stock". Sharpe was a lottery pick before he came to UK. He was a lottery pick after he left UK. Sitting Sharpe on the bench did not "help his draft stock".

JMO, Cal got hustled. He bought the idea of Sharpe's handler saying he would for sure return for 2022-23 and "lead the program". You are absolutely correct in saying that Cal will do whatever he has to do to help players get into the NBA. However, I don't think his intention is to do that at the expense of the program. If he thought a player's decision damages the program, he would advise against it.

Cal should have seen through the smoke on Sharpe. He should have prevented the program from taking a black eye from this. But, I think he got hustled believing in the kid, the kid's parents, and the handler. That **** is on the Sharpe camp. If it happens again, that is on CAL.
 
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Not seen anyone say he’s redshirting. I’m sure it’s been thrown out as a possibility out there in the Twitter verse or on here. All accounts that I’ve seen from anyone legit have stated the plan is for him to backup OT/Ware and learn what he can in mop up time then see how he progresses thru the season.

HST—I agree to even consider a RS for him would be absurd. Not even from a Sharpe perspective, as others have pointed out this is apples and oranges. Just strictly from the fact there is zero chance the kid is here for 4 years. Let him get what playing time he can earn and improve for the following season where he could be a stud.

But, WTH do I know. Not gonna fret it either way.
The Athletic said it...
 

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The Athletic said it...
Well I just don’t see him redshirting. It makes no sense—esp a kid who will certainly not be around all four years.

Just read the Athletic article, while they do mention redshirting in the title, it seems pretty clear from the article that the plan would not be to do so. It says he plans to come in and help this year in whatever capacity that he can, mainly on the defensive end, while getting better practicing against OT and Ware.

Just don’t see any practical reasons to redshirt. If you are going down the Sharpe road here, almost everyone, including the Athletic article you mentioned, says the two situations are completely different. We will see how it plays out I guess.
 
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