After this weekend the CL's baised is beyond obvious...

[fishwater99]

Saturday Paper...
Big article on Rebels win.
Small inside side-note on our loss.

Sunday Paper
Big article on Rebels win.
Small inside side-note on our win.

Today's Paper
Front of Sports Page
Top right side
"Rebels Hot Bats ignite Sweep"

And right Below
"Bulldogs take 3-game series over #1 Florida"

 

[HD6]

Again, they had nobody down there covering it, so it's just an AP article. If Bonner had been down there, it would have been the top story.

 

[Walter White.sixpack]

Why would the Ledger not want their MSU beat reporter to cover a top 5 matchup?

Or did they expect a different outcome?

 

[HD6]

A money issue I would guess. Costs too much to send him down there, put him in a hotel for 3 days, give him per diem. It wasn't just the Clarion Ledger, none of the media went down there.

 

[dogmatic]

This is it. Individual reporters may be biased, but for the institution to be biased, it would first have to care. They didn't send their guy on the road because they didn't want to pay to do so.
It's not a biased paper, just a bad one.

 

[fishwater99]

Again, they had nobody down there covering it, so it's just an AP article. If Bonner had been down there, it would have been the top story.

Could our Beat writer not watch the game online and then at least call Cohen for an interview? Maybe do some actual reporting.

 

[dogmatic]

Maybe they didn't want to pay for internet and a long distance call either.

 

[patdog]

It's not anything new. The CL has basically never sent the beat reporters to cover road baseball games.

 

[HD6]

I wouldn't consider watching the game online actual reporting. And I doubt Cohen would want to do a phone interview after the game.

 

[HueFreeze]

I agree with you, it is 2016 ...you don't have to be at an actual game to report on it ...maybe you write an opinion article and say what the win of this series actually means. Newspaper is so short-sighted these days and they need to adapt to what the market is ...give up the cigarettes and typewriter and compete with your market.

 

[jakldawg]

Hanlon's Razor

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

 

[patdog]

It would be more reporting than he did on the game. Definitely more newsworthy than half the drivel they put in that paper these days whether he was in Gainesville or Starkville. And I don't know why Cohen wouldn't have done a 5-10 minute phone interview with him. Or they could have at least had the UF beat reporter from an affiliate paper ask Cohen a couple of questions and pass them on to Bonner. I understand the issue of not wanting to pay for travel, but it's pretty inexcusable to just not cover the first two games of the series.

 

[Shmuley]

Unless the matter to be covered can be "converted" into an ad for a car dealership or a prescription drug, there is no incentive for the out of state overlords to authorize expending the funds to cover it.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

Why do y'all keep reading that ****? I can't remember the last time I read a CL article. And honestly, it's not because I think they are biased (they are) or on some sort of strike against them, I just really don't give a **** about reading the CL.

 

[HD6]

The UF beat reporter has to ask O'Sullivan questions. They are both talking to the media directly after the game, there's no time to go get quotes from both.

Very few papers in America are going to cover college baseball with a traveling beat writer, especially for trips that far. They are just going to rely on the AP wire reports. Bonner probably won't even go over to Tuscaloosa this season. And again, it wasn't just him, no member of the MSU beat went down to Gainesville this weekend.

Seems sort of odd that after all these years of telling people to cancel their subscriptions to the Clarion Ledger, now we want more coverage from them. As I said on my show today, what is Mike going to tell you that you don't already know? You watched the game, Cohen's postgame was streamed live on Periscope, there are a dozen articles recapping what happened. This isn't 1986 where you relied on that paper to get you the info, everything you wanted to know about that game was available to you minutes after it finished.

 

[Junction John]

Damn, nail on head right there. Sums up the CL very nicely.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

*

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Had a player of ours been arrested in Gainsville they would have broken out the jet with a quickness.**

 

[Junction John]

It's becoming more and more obvious, HD6 is biased against our bias against the CL.**

 

[OleMissLogo]

Saturday Paper:
Front page articles - Tyndall sanctions, NCAA satellite camps, Ole Miss spring football
Ole Miss baseball - page 3 next to USM, beat writer (but a "big article" apparently)
MSU baseball - page 2, AP writer

Sunday Paper:
Front page articles - Masters, Ole Miss spring football, MSU spring football, Kellenberger commentary on Spring games
Ole Miss baseball - page 2 above USM, beat writer
MSU baseball - page 2, AP writer

Monday paper:
Front page articles - Masters, Ole Miss baseball (beat writer), MSU baseball (AP writer), Saints DE murder
both continued onto page 2 below the USM story, the rest of the section is the USAToday-lite

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

The UF beat reporter has to ask O'Sullivan questions. They are both talking to the media directly after the game, there's no time to go get quotes from both.

Very few papers in America are going to cover college baseball with a traveling beat writer, especially for trips that far. They are just going to rely on the AP wire reports. Bonner probably won't even go over to Tuscaloosa this season. And again, it wasn't just him, no member of the MSU beat went down to Gainesville this weekend.

Seems sort of odd that after all these years of telling people to cancel their subscriptions to the Clarion Ledger, now we want more coverage from them. As I said on my show today, what is Mike going to tell you that you don't already know? You watched the game, Cohen's postgame was streamed live on Periscope, there are a dozen articles recapping what happened. This isn't 1986 where you relied on that paper to get you the info, everything you wanted to know about that game was available to you minutes after it finished.

Agreed HD. Guys, this is college baseball, not football. 99% of sports fans couldn't tell you that Florida was #1 yet you want the CL to send a beat reporter on a 1100 mile road trip. Profit first, news second. It's also been that way.

 

[Shamoan]

it is known that per the state paper, we are not the favorite sons. why do we get so upset about it STILL? ben mcdonald, barrett sallee, hugh kellenburger, pat forde, the list goes on and on and on....why do we have to demand such outside praise for us to be happy when we have good teams? this is exactly what we rightfully criticize our bear friends of all the time. 17 the outside noise. if we win and win big, the positive stories will write themselves, but lets stop complaining about the bias. its real, its there, and we are not in position to do a damn thing about it. sure, it would be great to have support from the local or regional media, but the media/journalism school in the state belongs to our hated rivals. again, we need thicker skin.

 

[dawgstudent]

You should hear him defend Kellenberger in person**

 

[Junction John]

Thank you, Stuart Smalley**

 

[chem1970]

Surely you meant to post this crap on Genespage--they would love it

One would hope that you are intelligent enough to distinguish between an article written by the Associated Press (AP) and one authored by a beat writer for the Clarion Ledger. The Clarion Ledger does not have enough money budgeted to send a beat writer to cover baseball games played in states that are not contiguous to Mississippi. That applies to Ole Miss as well as State. The Clarion Ledger always gives priority to reports of games its beat writers cover personally. So, for example, when Ole Miss plays at Texas A&M (they don't play Florida this year), and we play at home, you will see our games more prominently reported in the pages of the CL.

The Clarion Ledger may be a low budget publication, but it does not favor Ole Miss over State or vice versa. Funny thing is that some Ole Miss fans make the same claim in reverse. A lot of their rednecks believe that the Clarion Ledger has a bias in favor of MSU.

Saturday Paper...
Big article on Rebels win.
Small inside side-note on our loss.

Sunday Paper
Big article on Rebels win.
Small inside side-note on our win.

Today's Paper
Front of Sports Page
Top right side
"Rebels Hot Bats ignite Sweep"

And right Below
"Bulldogs take 3-game series over #1 Florida"

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

It seems like the Clarion Liar has a built-in excuse for every praise of Ole Miss and every disrespect of MSU.

Back during Bowl Season the Clarion Liar photos from the Belk Bowl were credited as "AP" which means that the photos were Associated Press photos. However, the Clarion Liar photos from the Sugar Bowl were done by Clarion Liar staff and you can see Hugh Kellenberger standing in the picture. Excuses: Bigger Game and Closer.

So when #10 MSU has a series with #1 Florida, it would seem that MSU had the Bigger Game (than Ole Miss). However I guess Ole Miss's Closer series this past weekend.

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[HD6]

That would work really good if Mike Bonner hadn't gone to the Belk Bowl. And you are pointing out the screen cap of their video versus a photo from the game. If you scroll down on that very Ole Miss article, there's an AP picture of Chad Kelly.


http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...niors-leave-wtih-more-than-bowl-win/78071734/

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...-miss-gets-sweet-revenge-sugar-bowl/78176324/

 

[fishwater99]

Hugh Whataburger today...


1. The big story of the weekend, at least here in the Magnolia State, is Mississippi State. The Bulldogs (23-9-1, 8-4 SEC) took two out of three at then-No. 3 Florida (ranked No. 1 by other polls than the USA Today coaches’ poll The Clarion-Ledger uses for corporate synergy reasons), and what stuck out was that the second win came on a Sunday.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...-ole-miss-recovers-masters-and-more/82894022/

 

[HD6]

So now we're complaining about what they ranked Florida?

 

[RocketDawg]

Again, they had nobody down there covering it, so it's just an AP article. If Bonner had been down there, it would have been the top story.

But couldn't they get the same story just by watching it on television? They don't need a reporter onsite to cover a baseball game. It's not it's like a big scoop on a major news story.

 

[RocketDawg]

This is it. Individual reporters may be biased, but for the institution to be biased, it would first have to care. They didn't send their guy on the road because they didn't want to pay to do so.
It's not a biased paper, just a bad one.

Did they send a reporter to Oxford to cover those games? Or does he already live there? If they sent him, expenses would-be the same as sending someone to Gainesville. As I said ... they don't need to be onsite to cover and write a story.

 

[HD6]

Yes, he lives in Oxford.

 

[RocketDawg]

Saturday Paper:
Front page articles - Tyndall sanctions, NCAA satellite camps, Ole Miss spring football
Ole Miss baseball - page 3 next to USM, beat writer (but a "big article" apparently)
MSU baseball - page 2, AP writer

Sunday Paper:
Front page articles - Masters, Ole Miss spring football, MSU spring football, Kellenberger commentary on Spring games
Ole Miss baseball - page 2 above USM, beat writer
MSU baseball - page 2, AP writer

Monday paper:
Front page articles - Masters, Ole Miss baseball (beat writer), MSU baseball (AP writer), Saints DE murder
both continued onto page 2 below the USM story, the rest of the section is the USAToday-lite

When you say "Front Page" ... do you mean the real front page, or the front page of the sports section? Thought the front page was for real news.

 

[Palos verdes]

The CL along the media outlets think Ole Miss is supposed to be the only big school athletic program in the state.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

OT: SEC Network will not be air the MSU vs. Texas A&M series this weekend---the games will stream on SECN+ We were lucky to get 1 of our 3 games with Florida on the SEC Network this past weekend.

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[OleMissLogo]

Front page of the sports section.

 

[OleMissLogo]

SECN guarantees every team gets at least 8 games on TV.

Alabama	9
Arkansas	11
Auburn	10
Florida	11
Georgia	9
Kentucky	8
LSU	10
Mississippi State	9
Missouri	9
Ole Miss	10
South Carolina	8
Tennessee	9
Texas A&M	10
Vanderbilt	11

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[tired]

Again, they had nobody down there covering it, so it's just an AP article. If Bonner had been down there, it would have been the top story.

I wasn't down there either but I know we took 2 of 3 from Florida & what players did what.

 

[OleMissLogo]

I wasn't down there either but I know we took 2 of 3 from Florida & what players did what.

And the CL printed that info.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

According to USA Today Baseball rankings ( worthless, I know) Ole Miss is ranked #11 and MSU is ranked #8.

Winning doesn't get you any more TV time---#8 ranked MSU will get our 9 televised games, #11 Ole Miss will get their 10 televised games, and unranked Arkansas (beats us both) will get their 11 televised games. It just seems sort of like participation trophies to me.

Personally not having the MSU vs. Texas A&M series on SEC Network doesn't bother me because I will be there for Super Bulldog Weekend. But from a TV ratings standpoint---2 Top Ten ranked teams and probably a big crowd with Super Bulldog Weekend going on---it would seem like something worth putting on TV.

 

[RocketDawg]

According to USA Today Baseball rankings ( worthless, I know) Ole Miss is ranked #11 and MSU is ranked #8.

Winning doesn't get you any more TV time---#8 ranked MSU will get our 9 televised games, #11 Ole Miss will get their 10 televised games, and unranked Arkansas (beats us both) will get their 11 televised games. It just seems sort of like participation trophies to me.

Personally not having the MSU vs. Texas A&M series on SEC Network doesn't bother me because I will be there for Super Bulldog Weekend. But from a TV ratings standpoint---2 Top Ten ranked teams and probably a big crowd with Super Bulldog Weekend going on---it would seem like something worth putting on TV.

As long as they stream the games, I don't really care. There are only two disadvantages to streaming that I can see: 1) You can't record them on your DVR without some creative wiring; and 2) In my case at least, sometimes you lose the signal. Not sure whether this is due to my ISP or ESPN's method of sending the signal out. At least we get to see the games, and they're in HD.