UCLA and USC joining Big 10

Bluesnky

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I had figured UCLA would be left behind while USC, Oregon, and Washington joined the Big Ten. Notre Dame is joining that conference at some point.

If it shakes out the way I expect I think the SEC will be permanently in second place in terms of $$$.
 
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BigCat241

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How they hell can you have a conference with one school within 20 miles of the Atlantic Ocean and two more within 20 miles of the Pacific?
Not too sure, that’s why I don’t think this is near a done deal or anything could just be UCLA and USC putting it out to gain leverage on the next TV negotiations and such with the P12
 

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I had figured UCLA would be left behind while USC, Oregon, and Washington joined the Big Ten. Notre Dame is joining that conference at some point.

If it shakes out the way I expect I think the SEC will be permanently in second place in terms of $$$.

This move gets the Big 10 to 16 teams already. Notre Dame is going to go to the ACC because of recruiting for football IMO even though its football rivals and academics are a better fit for the Big 10.
 
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MWes11

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Geography means absolutely nothing in today's world. It meant something when you had to take a bus to travel to games. Now these players and coaches are flying first class in private planes anywhere in the country in 4 or 5 hours or less. It's all about the money. Big 10 has to do this to compete with the SEC. More dominoes will fall and there will soon be 3 or 4 Super Conferences. Only a matter of time.
 

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The SEC will have to respond, believe it or not. If the Big Ten gobbles up the very best programs in the Pacific time zone, that’s going to generate a significant money advantage.
 
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Bluesnky

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This move gets the Big 10 to 16 teams already. Notre Dame is going to go to the ACC because of recruiting for football IMO even though its football rivals and academics are a better fit for the Big 10.
This same thing is going to happen to the ACC.
 

bbnkat02

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Geography means absolutely nothing in today's world. It meant something when you had to take a bus to travel to games. Now these players and coaches are flying first class in private planes anywhere in the country in 4 or 5 hours or less. It's all about the money. Big 10 has to do this to compete with the SEC. More dominoes will fall and there will soon be 3 or 4 Super Conferences. Only a matter of time.
Sad really. For a time when the NCAA wants diversity they sure as heck don’t mind eliminating varied geographical rivalries and conference cultures.
 

KYExtemper

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This same thing is going to happen to the ACC.
If anything, maybe the SEC thinks of adding Notre Dame to get to 16 to match the BIG and then takes one team from the ACC? Interesting possibilities at play here....
 

bbnkat02

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The SEC will have to respond, believe it or not. If the Big Ten gobbles up the very best programs in the Pacific time zone, that’s going to generate a significant money advantage.
And do nothing with it like the PAC-12 has.
 

Bluesnky

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ACC SEC BIG 10 and either the PAC 12 or Big 12 will make up your 4 super conferences very soon.
There isn’t going to be anything Super about the Big 12 and ACC unless one of them absorbs the best teams from the other. But the valuable programs left in the ACC, Big 12, and PAC are going to be looking for a way out. The money difference compared to the Big Ten and SEC is going to be mind blowing.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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If the conferences are going to realign hey need to atleast make them make a little sense geographically. USC and UCLA having to go play a game at Rutgers makes no sense
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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I had figured UCLA would be left behind while USC, Oregon, and Washington joined the Big Ten. Notre Dame is joining that conference at some point.

If it shakes out the way I expect I think the SEC will be permanently in second place in terms of $$$.
No way, SEC now has teams all the way to Texas, they will pull somebody else soon from the ACC and maybe try to get a West coast school at some point.
 

MdWIldcat55

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With this news, I bet it saves the Big 12.

The Big12 will absorb whatever 4 or 8 members of the Pac12 that they want, and call it a day (Utah, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, etc)
Nah. The other way around. The PAC-12 still dominates California and the entire Pacific seacoast even without UCLA and USC. Add San Diego State - they already play 3-4 PAC-12 games a year, maybe UNLV for the growing La Vegas market, then poach Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

That's stronger than any combination the Empty Prairie Conference can put together. The Big 12 is always going to be the Ugly Step-Sister as this shakes out. There's just no center of gravity to what they are doing. Central Florida? West Virginia? Cincinnati?
 
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Bluesnky

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Nah. The other way around. The PAC-12 still dominates California and the entire Pacific seacoast. Add San Diego State - they already play 3-4 PAC-12 games a year, maybe UNLV for the growing La Vegas market, then poach Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

That's stronger than any combination the Empty Prairie Conference can put together. The Big 12 is always going to be the Ugly Step-Sister as this shakes out. There's just no center of gravity to what they are doing. Central Florida? West Virginia? Cincinnati?
I don’t even think it’s worth considering the possibility that Oregon and Washington will be in the PAC when all is said and done. It’s hard to believe the LA schools would make this move alone.
 

UKWildcats1987

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This gets the Big 10 to 16 (why can't they just change the damn name...perhaps once they know they are done lol) like the SEC. I do not necessarily feel the SEC has to "respond" as this is just the Big 10 responding to the SEC's move of Texas & OU from a while back.

I think we will end up with 4 16 team super conferences and at least in football they will go to a semi-pro playoff of sorts and break away from the NCAA completely. I would like to see the same in basketball to be honest.
 

UK90

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Wow. I guess the Big Ten got tired of waiting on Notre Dame.

The old big 5 conference model seems to be devolving into only a big 2. The SEC and Big Ten are leaving everyone else behind in their dust.