Ouch. David Turner to Texas AM

[57stratdawg]

Damn. Lost every coaching staff member off the D.

 

[121Josey]

Is he taking Simmons with him?**

 

[FreeDawg]

I'm a little surprised he told OU no but A&M yes. Sumlin has had some bad issues the last 2 years. He better win now or he's in trouble.

 

[57stratdawg]

Especially considering he's only coaching DTs at TAM (or at least that was the rumor).

 

[PBRME]

Well that sucks.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Are you trying to say you already knew about this?

 

[Shmuley]

A little eye opening that Turner apparently sees a better future with the Sumlin Shipwreck than with Mullen.

 

[engie]

He'll come back a 3rd time when Sumlin's staff is fired and our new DL coach makes a lateral move next year

 

[aTotal360]

Sallach better be ready to step up. ***

 

[121Josey]

A little eye opening that Turner apparently sees a better future with the Sumlin Shipwreck than with Mullen.

He was already making $100K more than the person he is replacing. So it won't be that big of a bump in pay. He coaches less players but loses the A-HC title.

Is it an indictment on the current DC? I can't fault Turner for wanting to work with Chavis and alongside Terry Price but like you said Sumlin's ship is in SOS mode.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

Do we know he would have been allowed to stay? I'd think a new DC would want his own people. Maybe Turner was doing us a real solid and was willing to wait until after signing day to bow out. Whether he was nudged or was just looking for a change, seems like he did the right think by waiting until the recruiting dust had settled.

 

[121Josey]

Do we know he would have been allowed to stay? I'd think a new DC would want his own people. Maybe Turner was doing us a real solid and was willing to wait until after signing day to bow out.

Most likely. TAMU was after Brick Haley from Texas last week. When he turned them down, they Turner-ed.

 

[engie]

Do we know he would have been allowed to stay? I'd think a new DC would want his own people. Maybe Turner was doing us a real solid and was willing to wait until after signing day to bow out. Whether he was nudged or was just looking for a change, seems like he did the right think by waiting until the recruiting dust had settled.

He was not forced out in any way, shape, fashion, or form... That said... Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.

 

[The_Pylon]

Asst HC passed over for DC position

might also play into it. I don't know what his ceiling as a coach is, but I'd think he'd want consideration as the DC, and at this point he sees that it's not coming with Mullen.

Do we know he would have been allowed to stay? I'd think a new DC would want his own people. Maybe Turner was doing us a real solid and was willing to wait until after signing day to bow out. Whether he was nudged or was just looking for a change, seems like he did the right think by waiting until the recruiting dust had settled.

 

[aTotal360]

Or just straight for Orgeron. I'd be happy with either.

 

[engie]

Or just straight for Orgeron. I'd be happy with either.

His kids are in school at LSU and he's already the highest paid DL coach in college. Not happening...

 

[57stratdawg]

Did he ever get his $900K payday from LSU? I'm not holding my breath on that one.

 

[coach66]

This is getting old, Scott it's time to understand what is going on and get it

Fixed. It's amazing Mullen appears to overcome this issue in most cases but how much better
could we be with great coaches that stayed put?

 

[Col. Forbin]

Lance Thompson also has ties to Sirmon.

 

[rugbdawg]

The eternal optimist.

Bravo!

 

[8dog]

How do you cure someone of being an insufferable *******?

 

[aTotal360]

Wouldn't you be if you beat Kentucky year in and year out? **

 

[HD6]

I doubt that, he's got some NCAA baggage. I know he was cleared, but I don't see Mullen going down that path, especially with the goings on elsewhere.

 

[rugbdawg]

Writing on the wall for Mullen. Let's hope it doesn't become a Sherrill

situation. He has earned the right to have a crap year this year...but all signs pointing to this next year being his last.

 

[Shmuley]

The die appears to be cast. Dude cannot solve the recruiting riddle.

 

[coach66]

You don't.

Nm

 

[Rayburn8]

situation. He has earned the right to have a crap year this year...but all signs pointing to this next year being his last.

Holy crap.
You can't be serious?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

For the obtuse amongst us, can you please elaborate on what all the signs are?

 

[Shamoan]

that one is going to hurt. damn...

 

[Thirty-Two Dive]

He was not forced out in any way, shape, fashion, or form... That said... Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.

Very good recruiter at Cal, too. Killed Cal's recruiting with impact players, after he left to UW.
Got cleared of the allegations at Washington, which had me concerned at first.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

Or the in game decision making and adjustment riddle.


Or the Freeze riddle.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

**HYPOTHETICALLY**

So, 6-7 this Fall. We get embarrassed by TSUN then go on to shallack a cupcake American conf. team in the Birmingham Bowl or Liberty or whatever...


Next Fall, 4-8 another loss to OM at home, among others, are we bringing Dan back without discussion?

 

[Thirty-Two Dive]

might also play into it. I don't know what his ceiling as a coach is, but I'd think he'd want consideration as the DC, and at this point he sees that it's not coming with Mullen.

That was also my initial reasoning, when I saw it. While the complete turnover on defense is a huge chasm to overcome, It's not like the sky is falling. Although, it would serve us well, to have some stability with this new defensive staff.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Are you suggesting we make a bowl at 5-7?

 

[rugbdawg]

If Dan has a good year, he will finally get a job that his ego will allow him to take. I firmly believe this will happen because Dan wants out. I'm of the opinion these defensive staff changes happened because folks thought Dan was leaving. The whole D staff was aware they needed to be looking. When the offer came, they realized they didn't want to work for Dan anymore. This does not apply to Turner.

I do not think that we will have a good year next year. Too many negative signs. If we win 5 or 6 games (or even 7 if we get absolutely raped by Ole Miss), there will be some pressure on him. Pressure that Mullen's ego won't be able to take and will result in an implosion.

Seriously, if you had to bet whether Mullen will be our head coach for one day in January of 2018, what would you bet? I'd be shocked if Mullen was still our head coach. In fact, the only situation where he is our head coach at that time is if we entered into a Sherrill situation.

 

[Philly Dawg]

If Bama hired him, he should be "clean enough" for us.

 

[121Josey]

If Bama hired him, he should be "clean enough" for Bama.

I fixed it for ya.

 

[Dawgtini]

If Dan has a good year, he will finally get a job that his ego will allow him to take. I firmly believe this will happen because Dan wants out. I'm of the opinion these defensive staff changes happened because folks thought Dan was leaving. The whole D staff was aware they needed to be looking. When the offer came, they realized they didn't want to work for Dan anymore. This does not apply to Turner.

I do not think that we will have a good year next year. Too many negative signs. If we win 5 or 6 games (or even 7 if we get absolutely raped by Ole Miss), there will be some pressure on him. Pressure that Mullen's ego won't be able to take and will result in an implosion.

Seriously, if you had to bet whether Mullen will be our head coach for one day in January of 2018, what would you bet? I'd be shocked if Mullen was still our head coach. In fact, the only situation where he is our head coach at that time is if we entered into a Sherrill situation.

I can't disagree with this post vehemently enough. Cocaine must truly be a hellava drug.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.

Talty say on the twitter that Lupoi to State ain't happening.

 

[NCDawg.sixpack]

Talty say on the twitter that Lupoi to State ain't happening.

Can't believe that. The guy that said that's going to happen is never wrong. He knows everything about Mississippi State sports.