NCAA will accept UM's suspension of Tunsil as enough. It will lose one or two football scholarships based on lack of Institutional control. No post season ban. No firings. UM has loads of lawyers who will completely frustrate NCAA. BAMA does the same thing. Just hope they do not throw some crap our way. Historically, it happens.
UM will suffer little...
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Hate to say it, but I agree. Maybe a few more scholarships. I'm betting more than 3 and less than 8 over the course of 2-4 years. Like others have already said, the probation will have a bigger impact. With that being said, if they get absolutely nothing, I wouldn't be shocked either.
If they got 4 per year over 3 years, that would be significant in today's world. I hope they throw in a 1 year bowl ban but doubt that happens.
I don't think it has anything to do with lawyers per se. It has to do with the ability to manage the information. The biggest impact of an NCAA investigation is the cloud that hangs over during the actual investigation due to the unknown. Once everything is done and the penalties are handed out everyone breaths a sigh of relief because you know what is in front of you and can deal with it. If you will recall, our investigation phase in the late 90s could not have taken place in a more public manner. That is because it was orchestrated by UM folks who made sure that this was the case and it was 2 years of pure hell on our program. Thus the strategy for UM was/is to keep everything as quiet and underwraps as possible for as long as possible. They made it a very long time before it finally began to come out. It also proves that we had nothing to do with instigating the investigation.
They will lose a few scholarships on tunsil alone. The kid was punished by being suspended not the school. The school will feel some punishment from that.
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No. I don't know if you are using reverse psychology or just trying to remain grounded but let's be very clear. There are several people who have been very VERY right about everything in regards to this whole fiasco. They are saying several things: 1) the entire investigation into ole miss is not over 2) the NCAA will be dropping a big hammer on ole miss. This will not happen immediately but it will all shake out over the next year. Don't fall for this BS ole miss is pushing out right now. Hell, recruits who didn't go to ole miss are staring to talk about them on Twitter offering incentives. Tell whatever ole miss contingent is bringing you down this morning to **** off and stick their spin up their own asses.
No. I don't know if you are using reverse psychology or just trying to remain grounded but let's be very clear. There are several people who have been very VERY right about everything in regards to this whole fiasco. They are saying several things: 1) the entire investigation into ole miss is not over 2) the NCAA will be dropping a big hammer on ole miss. This will not happen immediately but it will all shake out over the next year. Don't fall for this BS ole miss is pushing out right now. Hell, recruits who didn't go to ole miss are staring to talk about them on Twitter offering incentives. Tell whatever ole miss contingent is bringing you down this morning to **** off and stick their spin up their own asses.
I'm not sure that I agree with that.
Typically self reporting a violation separates the school from ncaa punishment. However, if the NOA really includes the tunsil situation then I would say that the ncaa feels like there is something else that OM did wrong.
Additionally, do you think UM fans would be brushing things off if State was the school being investigated? Hell no. They'd be paying people to write scathing articles about the "details" and making sure everyone knew State was about to get hammered. I say exaggerate the hell out of things and keep it rolling. Don't buy their garbage because that's exactly what they want.
I completely disagree with this. Just having a bunch of lawyers as alumni does not help in these situations. Any University under investigation is going to hire outside counsel to handle things for them. And BAMA has been put on crippling probation within the last 20 years, so obviously the committee on infractions was not too concerned with their "lawyer alumni".
This is more reb spin and don't buy it. First of all, they didn't self-report Tunsil. Secondly, the NCAA didn't accept their initial suspension. Thirdly, said suspension does not exonerate the school. We suspended Redmond, and the NCAA still imposed penalties on top of it.
If it takes a year to shake out, that might be the best thing that could happen. Death by a 1,000 cuts over a long period of time. Best thing that could happen for them is for it to be over in 3 months. Worst thing is we're still talking about this in December.
But the ncaa cleared tunsil to play afterwards. I'm not saying that nothing will happen, and I'm certainly not buying into any spin from either side.
They just hired their first
They just hired their first legal professional about a year ago.
They just hired their first legal professional about a year ago.
We didn't self-report Redmond either. An "anonymous source" (De'vinner) contacted the NCAA. UMiss says it was not charged with failure to monitor. If they fully cooperated with the NCAA investigation then the sanctions against UMiss for the Tunsil situation should be small....they might have to disassociate a certain booster, though.
That's the key. They suspended Tunsil for 7 games. That was his punishment. They haven't given out any punishment to the school for any of the Tunsil stuff. Yet. That will be a part of the resolution of this letter and ongoing investigation.
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You are much more certain of this than than a number of my TSUN friends. They are afraid that there will be Much Suffering! Time will tell.
I think that should be the case, but I won't know it for certain until the cards are on the table.
Ole Miss, as a school, has not received a punishment on the Tunsil situation as of yet. Tunsil has only received the punishment, by sitting out those games. I think the self reporting violations are going to be the least of their worries. Self reporting does not mean that the violation never existed either, and does not mean a school is exempt from any kind of NCAA santion/punishment.
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Traditionally the NCAA wants Universities to take off their pants and turn around and bend over and just "take it". In most cases when you try to fight back against them the NCAA winds up going harder on you. The NCAA is not like a court or a judge and they don't abide by the same set of rules of a court of law---they make up their own set of rules and by being a NCAA member Ole Miss in a manner of speaking agreed to the rules of the NCAA.
Now for your Ole Miss lawyer concern, yes you can fight the NCAA with your own lawyers---sort of like Jackie Sherrill. Of course, Jackie started fighting the NCAA with lawyers a little over a Decade ago and there has been very little progress in the case.
Now for your Ole Miss lawyer concern, yes you can fight the NCAA with your own lawyers---sort of like Jackie Sherrill. Of course, Jackie started fighting the NCAA with lawyers a little over a Decade ago and there has been very little progress in the case.
Bingo!
You have it exactly right. They are huge cheaters, but they are very, very good at cheating.
You have it exactly right. They are huge cheaters, but they are very, very good at cheating.