Rumor: Knott to greyshirt at Bama

[57stratdawg]

Dammit guys. You can't lose kids to greyshirts.

 

[rugbdawg]

Knott made a terrible, terrible decision.

He has to live with it.

 

[ShrubDog]

"I have decided to go to the Unviversity of Alabama for 4-5 years"

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Can he not get released?

 

[Dawgbyte]

I wouldn't be surprised if Alabama never had plans for him. Their main goal was to keep him from being picked up by us or TSUN. This was a pickup for them just keeping the talent away from other teams in their division.

 

[Philly Dawg]

The question is whether he knew he was greyshirting.

 

[rugbdawg]

My understanding, which may be incorrect, is that it is too late.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

His HS coaches really failed him here IMO.

 

[patdog]

Nope. His options are:
1. Take the greyshirt. Either sit out this fall or pay his own way and go on scholarship next spring.
2. Sit out a year and transfer to a I-A school.
3. Transfer immediately to a I-AA school.

I think both Knott and Lashley made a mistake. Which sucks for both them and us.

 

[DirtyDog]

If true, then you have to consider whether quotes should be put around greyshirting at Alabama or Ole Miss for that matter. He may "greyshirt" which means he's not on an "official" scholarship. Regardless, I don't think they played him straight on it and his deal turned a little sour. I'm sure he won't suffer with that alumni base.

 

[ronpolk]

Nope. His options are:
1. Take the greyshirt. Either sit out this fall or pay his own way and go on scholarship next spring.
2. Sit out a year and transfer to a I-A school.
3. Transfer immediately to a I-AA school.

I think both Knott and Lashley made a mistake. Which sucks for both them and us.

If #2 were an option could he not just transfer some where, redshirt and be ready to play as a freshman in 2 years? Or can you not redshirt while you're sitting out a year?

 

[KurtRambis4]

Did he know

he was greyshirting, last Monday?

 

[AlCoDog]

Green grass and all that

 

[dogfan96]

I would think he could.. he'd just have 4 years to play 4.. instead of 5 years to play 4

 

[Philly Dawg]

A LOI is not valid unless accompanied by a scholarship. If he did not sign a scholarship, he is no longer bound by his LOI. If he hasn't enrolled in school, he is free to go elsewhere.

 

[engie]

Nope. His options are:
1. Take the greyshirt. Either sit out this fall or pay his own way and go on scholarship next spring.
2. Sit out a year and transfer to a I-A school.
3. Transfer immediately to a I-AA school.

Are you sure about this?

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Damn I hate that for him. Seemed like a nice guy.

 

[GloryDawg]

Dammit guys. You can't lose kids to greyshirts.

I just don't believe they can make him grey shirt this year. They offered him a scholarship, he accepted and they have to honor that scholarship. That's a one year contract and Bama has to honor it. I think he knew he was grey shirting or it all horse ****.

 

[engie]

I just don't believe they can make him grey shirt this year. They offered him a scholarship, he accepted and they have to honor that scholarship. That's a one year contract and Bama has to honor it. I think he knew he was grey shirting or it all horse ****.

My thought as well. The NLI is binding both ways. If he was not allowed to sign one yet -- then I would think he is still free to attend whatever school he wants until he actually does sign one in December. Could be wrong though

 

[ronpolk]

Damn I hate that for him. Seemed like a nice guy.

You very well may be being sarcastic here but I don't feel bad for him at all. I hope his *** is so buried on the depth chart that he ends up at Jackson state in a few years.

 

[Digging dog]

Knott will have to drink 20 milkshakes a day. He is a heck of an athlete (HS). But he looks like a stick compared to the prototypical Alabama DB.

 

[121Josey]

I just don't believe they can make him grey shirt this year. They offered him a scholarship, he accepted and they have to honor that scholarship. That's a one year contract and Bama has to honor it. I think he knew he was grey shirting or it all horse ****.

Binding yes. Inescapable no. I heard on BSR that Bama could make the numbers not work out for him. It will depend on where he wants to redshirt.

But maybe Bama knew they needed him to lock up the #1 recruiting banner. Or maybe he confused grey shirt with red shirt.**

 

[Dawgtini]

A LOI is not valid unless accompanied by a scholarship. If he did not sign a scholarship, he is no longer bound by his LOI. If he hasn't enrolled in school, he is free to go elsewhere.

If what you say is true, and he is being asked to grayshirt, then he should have already called Mullen and gotten in the boat.

 

[kired]

If you sit out a year you don't lose anything. Baker Swedenburg greyshirted in 2008, redshirted in 2009, then played 4 seasons 2010 - 2013.

ETA: If he doesn't agree to sit out the fall, Bama can't force him to. He either has to be allowed to enroll with scholarship aid, delay his enrollment, or be released from his LOI. He can attend school as a part time student this fall, and he can enroll full time in the spring. Now... I have no idea if Bama can make him wait until August to release him or what.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

He seemed like a good kid that just got mislead

 

[Xenomorph]

He best not come to us for them. All ours got drank. **

 

[DancingRabbit]

If Saban lied to him, he should go full bore Rosebowl on him.

Dammit guys. You can't lose kids to greyshirts.

.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

I wouldn't be surprised if Alabama never had plans for him. Their main goal was to keep him from being picked up by us or TSUN. This was a pickup for them just keeping the talent away from other teams in their division.

lol.

 

[GloryDawg]

Binding yes. Inescapable no. I heard on BSR that Bama could make the numbers not work out for him. It will depend on where he wants to redshirt.

But maybe Bama knew they needed him to lock up the #1 recruiting banner. Or maybe he confused grey shirt with red shirt.**

I think they are bound to pay for one year college.

 

[eyeofthesouth]

The kid committed to Bama before signing day thinking that would make Shyheim Carter go to Ole Miss. When it didn't keep Carter from Bama, I feel like Knott probably realized he screwed up. If he ends up grey shirting then that's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

 

[o_Dawg007]

The kid committed to Bama before signing day thinking that would make Shyheim Carter go to Ole Miss. When it didn't keep Carter from Bama, I feel like Knott probably realized he screwed up. If he ends up grey shirting then that's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

I'm with you. I feel like Bama helped to orchestrate all these commitment videos with their recruits. Once Knott had his commitment video out there, the pressure was on him to do as he let the world know or back out on his orchestrated video. Alabama then came sweeping in and said all we have available is a grey shirt. At that point, it was stay with my "commitment" or save face and sign a full scholly with Miss. State.

 

[121Josey]

I think they are bound to pay for one year college.

If he enrolls. It seems like a grey-shirt nullifies their obligation.

If I am eligible for admission, but the institution named in this document defers my admission to a subsequent term, the NLI will be declared null and void; however, this NLI remains binding if I defer my admission.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Or maybe he confused grey shirt with red shirt.**

They said, "hey wanna grey shirt?" And he said "I look fierce in grey, hells yes!"

 

[bulldogbaja]

Um no. Schools oversign every single year, especially bama and ole miss.

 

[DerrickCT1]

SMH... that's cold!! See at MSu you would have had a chance to play right away! I think he transfers after this year!!

 

[RocketDawg]

They could always give him an academic scholarship.

 

[Shmuley]

Where did this rumor come from? He signed a LOI. Once the LOI is signed, greyshirt is off the table. So this rumor is ********. So this was just a normal Mullen miss and not an extraordinary Mullen miss.

 

[121Josey]

Once the LOI is signed, greyshirt is off the table. So this rumor is ********.

Not true.

Grayshirts have commonly been used by programs that oversign, which means not having enough roster spots for all of their commits. Sometimes, coaches are up front about grayshirting from the beginning. However, other times, they will force grayshirts on athletes at the last minute, leaving them unable to find schools that will allow them to play immediately.

Arizona will add four grayshirts to their official roster this spring. All four — defensive back Antonio Parks, tight end Jamie Nunley and offensive linemen Keenan Walker and Harper Sherman — signed national letters of intent with the Wildcats last winter but delayed their official enrollment until January.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

Where did this rumor come from? He signed a LOI. Once the LOI is signed, greyshirt is off the table. So this rumor is ********. So this was just a normal Mullen miss and not an extraordinary Mullen miss.

I don't know anything about this... FWIW...

Still, a greyshirt would still be a good deal for him....

 

[hatfieldms]

How is a grey shirt good for him?

When other schools could have gotten him on scholarship year one?