The fundamental difference between State and Ole Miss fanbases

[dawgatUSM]

I think it's simple. Just this week a national blogger put us on blast because of a truthful tweet from our SID. Had that happened to Ole Miss, within a couple of hours, their bloggers and even those in their athletic department would have jumped on it and pointed out all of the facts that he missed and how misleading that blog post was. Then the party line would be established and the fanbase would follow suit. State fans, on the other hand, are an easy target because we just accept it (not saying this is a bad thing.. Actually I think it's less crazy!)

Not to mention, their university gets notice of over THIRTY violations and the party line is established within minutes. They've already got people updating their profile pictures on Facebook to say "I am Committed to Ole Miss" in response to the allegations.

 

[tatedog]

They are master bullshitters. And more importantly they consume it as well as they produce it.

 

[preacher_dawg]

Dawgatusm, surely you jest. Everyone knows that every om fan is a Christian and as such, they would mainly say "I am committed to Christ" surely not to a secular institution, especially when that institution is caught doing wrong things. Seriously, sometimes I think if I want to talk to a modern day Pharisee, I'll just talk to an Ole Miss fan, not that the MSU fanbase is perfect or that I am perfect, but there is a big difference between the two.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

If I ever ran for political office, I would most certainly hire Ole Miss people to handle my PR campaign. They are experts at saturating all levels of media (print media like newspapers and magazines and digital media like websites and social media) with THEIR perspective.

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[TBone.sixpack]

It is the lawyer win at all cost mentality. That is their hive mind.

Deny spin divert Rinse repeat

The way their media went into attack mode yesterday was as predictable as it gets.

 

[HunterDawg]

There is a ton of ******** coming from both sides. People saying Saban is behind this and it was leaked at just the most damaging time at Saban's direction and all that. People saying it will bomb TSUN back into the stone age while others say everything is minor. I don't care about all that. It will all blow over. What I care about is what is actually in the NOA and, frankly, I am a bit disappointed in what has come out so far.

Most reporters are saying that Pat Forde's implication that it was about Freeze and football is not entirely accurate. It seems that, by most accounts, all but 4 or 5 charges are about Women's Basketball and Track. We know at least one of those is about Tunsil. That doesn't leave a lot of room to detail a lot of stuff. Maybe there is some huge killer allegation in there, but 3 or 4 football violations is disappointing. Clearly, there aren't 30 faked ACT scores or anything.

If Freeze had been caught paying players, it would have come out by now. It hasn't. I am just afraid that if it was a nuclear bomb, we would know it. Forde would have printed it. Ashcroft and Finebaum wouldn't be downplaying it. All this is a cause for concern. And, unless what Nutt did was horrendous, it won't help us much. Too old.

Those who keep saying that they are "being investigated" don't understand the new NCAA procedure. Used to be, they got a LOI at the beginning of the investigation. Not done now. When the investigation is over and closed is when the NOA is issued. This kind hurts the "second letter" theory, too. They don't do that. I am afraid that what is there is what we get and unless some big stuff comes out soon, we may be disappointed.

Now, somebody cheer me up.

 

[tatedog]

They can't take away those Peach Bowl runnerup rings!

 

[HunterDawg]

That didn't do it.

 

[tatedog]

I'm curious about the Ole Miss talking point that the Nutt stuff is "too old" or that it involves people who no longer work there. Didn't the investigation start after Nutt was already gone? So the NCAA was either unaware Nutt was already gone or spent 3 years working up a case that it had no intention of bearing fruit.

 

[HunterDawg]

Several of our players were made eligible through the Saunders "plan". Are you worried that we could get hammered now because of that? Too old.

 

[tatedog]

I haven't heard anything about them being on our campus asking questions. Should they?

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDog]

So 27 charges vs other sports makes you feel better about 5 versus their football team. 5 charges are serious enough. Forde can't give you everything the first day. This process is just starting despite your insistence that 'it's old'. In case you haven't noticed, the UM athletic department is exactly cooperating with the media requests for the public information that they are required to release. They haven't even released the notice yet?!?!? I can't imagine that the NCAA is happy with the institutional control and the apparent level of obstruction.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Our guys prefer having sex with women?

 

[tatedog]

Well if they released the notice themselves then they couldn't blame Pat Forde for ruining their recruiting class. I guess a beautiful campus, loose women, and cash can't outweigh the lukewarm rebuke of a middle tier journalist.

 

[patdog]

If I were a UM fan and the letter only contains 5 charges against the football program, I would be ecstatic. I suspect we're going to find that rumor to be false though.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

If I were a UM fan and the letter only contains 5 charges against the football program, I would be ecstatic. I suspect we're going to find that rumor to be false though.

5 charges:

"everybody does it"
"no worse than giving tires to a backup QB"
"gotta play the game"
"haters gonna hate"
"they were coming here anyway, because the grove!"

 

[BossDawg78]

Most reporters are saying that Pat Forde's implication that it was about Freeze and football is not entirely accurate. It seems that, by most accounts, all but 4 or 5 charges are about Women's Basketball and Track. We know at least one of those is about Tunsil. That doesn't leave a lot of room to detail a lot of stuff.

That's what they want you to believe. The UM ilk has assembled and collectively they are trying to throw water on the whole deal by manipulating the message. They have so much practice at it that it appears to be working in many cases.

 

[dawgoneyall]

Go play in the street.