Bacot returning to UNC
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Was Love the guy who took those 3-4 dud jump shots that let Kansas back in the game.
Yea it's a little silly. Even if these guys get constructive criticism ,and work on everything. It still doesn't mean next year they will get drafted high
Well we are on a Kentucky basketball message board I don’t think we have any say in anyones decisions here but I could be wrong.
I was simply asking why on earth you would bring up a player who was drafted number 6 into this discussion of a player and players who are not on any draft boards.
they are not comparable at all, do you have anything to add to the discussion that actually makes sense, because this is a message board not an advisory panel for college basketball players. I think it is a fan website, again I could be wrong though.
I was simply asking why on earth you would bring up a player who was drafted number 6 into this discussion of a player and players who are not on any draft boards.
they are not comparable at all, do you have anything to add to the discussion that actually makes sense, because this is a message board not an advisory panel for college basketball players. I think it is a fan website, again I could be wrong though.
Yeah I forgot about kyrie but looking at that top I couldn’t see him going anywhere less than 2, heck Kanter was three and Brandon knight 7!
also forgot about the lockout possibly swaying his decision to stay. Worked out well for him I just couldn’t imagine that being a possibility at Kentucky while it seems to be a regular occurrence at UNC
We had some damn good teams in the 90s.I was thinking how many Pitino players left early for the NBA and I know Mash left after his junior year and Mercer left after his sophomore year but every Pitino team had Senior leadership.Look at the 1996 national title team.Loaded with experience and talent....yes different times indeed.
That don’t make no sense. Kids started skipping college because of Kobe and Garnett for sure, but they’d been leaving college eligibility on the table for decades before Duke was ever affected. Both the 1992 Wolverines and the 1994 Razorbacks never got to see senior version of their stars. LSU should have had 3 seasons of Shaq and Jackson, they got 1. UNC’s first early entry was in 1972. Kentucky’s was 1971. Duke was the outlier for a generation.
I never said nobody left early, I clearly said Shaq stayed three years as an example. (which means he left early) Does Shaq stay three years today? Does Shaq stay three years 10 years ago? hell no (unless at unc j/k lol.) And regarding Michigan, Jeep did you forget that four of the so-called Fab Five stayed in College three seasons? You can cherry pick all you want but It's NOTHING like it is now in the sport with early entry. There was no cringeworthy OAD catchphrase trotted out during games.
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Draft boards are for the Web. Hearing estimates from actual NBA people seems to me to be more valuable. As I said earlier, the NBA has lots of people who never made a draft board or a discussion group. Some clubs may see things in Toppin or Brooks that amateurs don't. And as I said before, since there's no cost to the player in terms of his eligibility, why wouldn't he see what flesh-and-blood people have to say? It baffles me to wonder why people get so exercised about a player wanting to do that. You wouldn't want strangers gossiping -- which is what all this is -- about you.
I suspect that some people just love the feeling of being irate all the time.
Players left early even back then. Yes, Those two I believe played two years each. But it's nothing like it is now. I was watching back then and I got to see a lot of talent play in College and for more than even a couple years. If you said one and done back then no one knew what that was.
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I believe it comes down to what these coaches tell recruits. If you're presenting a fast track to the NBA then no one should really be upset when these players don't stick around.
Yes he was feeling himself after having a great tournament and hitting the dagger 3 against Duke. (Dirty Little Secret neither Davis nor Love are confident ball handlers and you can give them fits with a simple press.)
See now if you would have said that the first time it may have made a little bit of sense.
you simply said
would you have advised Dujuan Wagner to come back, which is not comparable at all.
I suppose there is nothing wrong with getting feedback and I wouldn’t say I am angry about that, some may be,
it just seems the hundreds of scouts that have been around the program, the coach who has 57 or whatever players in the nba and the nba workout/tryout thing Kentucky does every season would give them plenty of answers.
To each his own, but like I said this is a discussion message board or gossip as you call it for fans, the question most ask is how many players of toppin/brooks ability bother to go through this process.
I think the frustration is more with Cal and the fact that it is expected for all of our players to be Gone asap, with your tone towards this discussion it seems to me you are a Cal guy, which is fine, just many are soured on his approach when the wins are no longer there.
1. UCLA was the toughest team UNC played until Kansas. If not for Caleb Love's late shots, UCLA would have likely run to the title game themselves.
2. Manek was a career 37% 3pt shooter at OU. He never had a season over 38% until he came to UNC. He didn't even start over Dawson Garcia until Garcia's concussion. If UNC could pull 2 starting caliber stretch 4s last summer, they can get 1 this transfer season.
3. Defensively they were one of the best teams in the country the last month of the season/post season.
It’s nothing like it is now, but Duke definitely was an outlier in the 1990s in the fact they lost no one. UNC could have had two years of Jamison-Vince-Stack-Sheed if playing with the Duke rules. It was a fun experiment we used to play, building your teams if no one left early. I had two Wake friends convinced they were cutting down the nets in 1994 if Rodgers had stayed. The poor State fans didn’t play with their own team lol. Same as it ever was.
Hubert recruited those players too. He also recruited Manek. He also changed the offense. Roy's last game was a blowout loss with most of these players in the 1st round.
That was the ESPN talking point- not all freshmen, but starting 5. Except now there is a lot of smoke that that won’t happen and they’ll return several guys they thought were leaving
UNC also blew some big leads against Baylor, who were not a legit one seed, and against KU. When they were hot, they were hot. When they weren't hot, they were cold as ice. Also, much of their schedule late season was weak. Their most impressive wins were against Duke, of course.
They lost two of their starters against Baylor, including one of two ballhandlers. They were outmuscled and worked in the KU second half though, and bench depth will need to be rectified through growth and portal.
I have no insight into Calipari's reasons, but I do love the "players first" mentality. I think it's sincere -- but obviously don't know. If my son were playing for him -- and here my flesh and blood would roar with laughter -- I'd want a coach making my kid's future and interests his top priority. Irresistible force (UK fans' howls) meets immovable object (Calipari's contract). What's baffling to me are the hints of outright malice on Calipari's part. If you were coming from generational poverty, you wouldn't want a guy looking out for your kid first?
I actually predicted a second half meltdown by UNC in the KU game. They had to be exhausted with only one day of rest after beating Duke. If they strengthen the bench, they can be much stronger next year.
Let's see....no class attendance required, NIL money, college gals......what am I missing?
Actually they lost three early in the 90s. like K said in 1998/99, if Jamison comes back for his senior year then Elton Brand isn’t on the magazine covers. (But boy “three” years of Jamison was pretty nice wasn’t it?)
Yes of course I would.
if you were the athletic director for a college would you like your head coach to look out for the program first or generational poverty? I know you may say it goes both ways he can help players while winning but that doesn’t apply with the talent we have been acquiring lately it seems while 2010-2015 it was absolutely true.
and I completely understand the generational poverty thing before NIL, but there is a reason Oscar wants to come back to Kentucky. He will make more money next season at UK than he would as a second round draft pick.
How many past Kentucky players that left would be in better situations had they stayed? Whether they get their degree, become a legend which opens up connections the rest of their lives in this state and also betters their basketball abilities for their over seas career if they want to play basketball longer many would have been better off.
of course the players who are top picks it makes no sense to return even if you want to come back like cousins and MKG, but imagine the players who left.
Yes, that is the problem. Cal created this one-and-done culture. Cal also won’t dismantle it because he cares more about ‘helping draft the kids’ than success on the court .
Mercer leaving as a sophomore was a huge “OMG!” Two years later when Duke freshman Corey Maggette left after his frosh year it was beyond unique.
Bench should be better this season. UNC just had 2 guys who didn't play at all since January enter the portal. Sounds like a 3rd guy might join them. The roster is being reshaped. Hubert's gonna have a few guys on the bench who can actually contribute.
He damn sure hasn’t lol. He throws statements like that out all the time and doesn’t even have a clue.
Jesus. Yeah, there’s totally not enough room on a roster for both a big guy who can stretch the floor and shoot threes as well as a big guy who can bring down lots of rebounds. Only one big guy allowed per roster. No one else. You got me.
You’re right, not enough room for a guy that only rebounds, you’re right.Jesus. Yeah, there’s totally not enough room on a roster for both a big guy who can stretch the floor and shoot threes as well as a big guy who can bring down lots of rebounds. Only one big guy allowed per roster. No one else. You got me.
Hope Congress changes the immigration laws so Tshiebwe can access his NIL money without being deported.