Everyone is going to be really disappointed

[tatedog]

I'm not speaking for them, but I seem to recall Tunsil's stepdad having a reported "sit down" with an NCAA investigator. There is more than one Tunsil camp member who the NCAA has spoken with, and I've already seen it reported that the younger Tunsil was less than forthcoming with investigators, which doesn't lend him any credence in a he said/she said situation. It is quite plausible to me that interviews could be concluded while an investigation into the evidence or innuendo resulting from said interviews is still ongoing. That being said, I know as much as anyone else who is reading and writing about this stuff who is outside the investigation, which is nothing.

 

[tatedog]

I do not doubt that one bit. It's hard for me to believe that they spent 3 years on an investigation into allegedly minor non football issues, yet wrapped up a potential bombshell from a firsthand witness in less than 6 months.

 

[JungRebel]

How do you know that? And how do you know they are going to punish us more than the seven games they gave him? Did UGA get punished for Green and Gurley past the four game suspensions?

 

[tatedog]

Gurley's violation was an individual matter if I recall. Didn't he just sell his own memorabilia? Not sure what connection to a booster or administration that could have, unless they for example showed that boosters were buying the stuff, which would be an incredibly stupid scheme. It makes total sense to me that Tunsil could be punished just like Gurley, but perhaps the booster connection portion is still being tied into an overall punishment for the institution. The better comparison would be Redmond and he got a much more severe suspension than Tunsil did. It will all come down to who the NCAA places the preponderance of the blame on.

 

[JungRebel]

What else did MSU get for Redmond besides the 18 game suspension?

 

[tatedog]

Minor probation? The thing that would scare the hell out of me is that we know Tunsil and Cannon Motors didn't volunteer this information to the NCAA. So how did they get it? The only logical answer is the stepdad. Did he also give other information that wasn't so easily digested or proven? I mean if the car was still in Tunsil's possession (which I'm told it was) it's pretty easy to ask for proof of some sort of payment, so that matter can be wrapped up pretty quickly. I would be worried that there is more out there that can't quite be so easily proven. This is all very wishful thinking on my part I know, but if I wore red pants, it would concern me.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

What else did MSU get for Redmond besides the 18 game suspension?

2 years probation, loss of 4 total scholarships, public censure, booster disassociation, plus several minor small reductions, etc

 

[JungRebel]

Thanks

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Redmond suspension + NCAA limited in home visits + Angelo Mirando lost his job = not too much fall out. I expect Reverend Freezus Christ and the congregation of Black Rebel Shark Land Bear Racists to get similarly light punishments.

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[ronpolk]

When nothing comes of this but a slap on the wrist and a lost scholarship or two.

They are busy building a championship program while we are busy losing recruits right across the street and trying to make some NCAA **** stick to the wall (that we have been trying to do for years).

They are still going to continue to kick our *** where it matters, no matter what happens. And until Mullen decides it's important, we are going to keep sitting by and singing the same song.

I have no doubt now that this idiot is really an OM fan and is doing his best to troll. Great job on trolling through.

 

[DancingRabbit]

NY Times article says the investigation is ongoing.

I do have to ask, and I figure this is what C66 is alluding to, what makes you think that? It was my understanding that the Tunsil deal is included in this round of allegations, and I saw that "the interviews have concluded." What else is being investigated? Is it Freeze era stuff?

Some of the allegations regarding the football program date back to previous coach Houston Nutt, but others involve current coach Hugh Freeze's tenure, a person familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press on Friday.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. The person said the Ole Miss football program has already taken some steps — like reducing recruiting official visits — to try to mitigate any punishment from the NCAA.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/01/29/sports/ncaafootball/ap-fbc-ncaa-mississippi.html?_r=2

 

[tatedog]

One source, not interested.**

 

[TBone.sixpack]

I wonder what ever happened to ole Mirando. Wasn't be banging coeds 2 at a time as well?

 

[engie]

What else did MSU get for Redmond besides the 18 game suspension?

what I would call 8 schollies(2 off the 85 limit for 2 years -- as well as 2 off the 25 limit for 2 years), 2 years probation, 7 years under repeat offenders, limited visits both on and off campus, etc...

It's not a decent comparison though -- because they didn't give us a root canal in other sports.

The bottom line is -- I wanted you on probation so that we both have the (real) threat of a hammer with repeat offenders hanging over our heads -- and it looks like I'm going to get it. Do I think that slows you down? It sure didn't slow us down in the 2015 class, so I would say no.

 

[JungRebel]

Is that this investigation or a different one?

 

[Crazy Cotton]

if I wore red pants.....

if I wore red pants, it would concern me.

I'd be concerned about how stupid I looked in red pants

 

[tatedog]

Well yeah, but they are obviously past that part.

 

[coach66]

Jung, my guy told me the investigation is not over and what we are seeing

Now is the conclusion of the original inquiry that has been active for a couple of years. Supposedly there was enough smoke that another investigation has been spawned.

 

[JungRebel]

Why would they open two separate inquiries instead of tacking on the new one to the old? What does your guy say is the target of the second investigation?

 

[DAWG61]

When nothing comes of this but a slap on the wrist and a lost scholarship or two.

They are busy building a championship program while we are busy losing recruits right across the street and trying to make some NCAA **** stick to the wall (that we have been trying to do for years).

They are still going to continue to kick our *** where it matters, no matter what happens. And until Mullen decides it's important, we are going to keep sitting by and singing the same song.

Damn and I thought I hated you when you joined our fantasy baseball league and then quit a day after the draft.