Bacot returning to UNC

Bleedin Blue in Ohio

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Actually, it is veery sad to say but I have been jealous of North Carolina's program for about 5 years now. They have been able to keep very good players for multiple years. Justin Jackson was an emerging player in 2016 and he returned for 2017 and they won a national championship. That does not happen in Kentucky anymore. Now they are getting another emerging player back in Bacot. Why can't Cal keep his players? They either go to the NBA too soon or transfer but they don't stay. Everyone knew the Harrison twins were not going to get drafted in the 1st rounds. Why not stay and make your legacy at Kentucky lasting? There have been others. I do blame Cal for this. North Carolina and Kansas have some players go pro but they get some to stick around. Build around them. That is where my frustration lies.
 

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Actually, it is veery sad to say but I have been jealous of North Carolina's program for about 5 years now. They have been able to keep very good players for multiple years. Justin Jackson was an emerging player in 2016 and he returned for 2017 and they won a national championship. That does not happen in Kentucky anymore. Now they are getting another emerging player back in Bacot. Why can't Cal keep his players? They either go to the NBA too soon or transfer but they don't stay. Everyone knew the Harrison twins were not going to get drafted in the 1st rounds. Why not stay and make your legacy at Kentucky lasting? There have been others. I do blame Cal for this. North Carolina and Kansas have some players go pro but they get some to stick around. Build around them. That is where my frustration lies.

Players first program

 

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So the best big man throughout the NCAA Tournament is coming back despite absolute domination in the semis and finals but you get guys here bouncing who A) Never even played B) Didn't even start C) Projected to go second round or undrafted.

This isn't even unique because over the years, UNC, Kansas, and Duke have all managed to keep guys multiple years where as if they came here, they'd be gone.
Have you missed where the player of the year is supposed to be coming back?

It's because bacot has no chance at the NBA draft just like Oscar
 

Mike-D

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Because ALL of these 2nd round kids KNOW what the NBA thinks about their games. This BS that Cal spews about ALL of our kids SHOULD "Get feedback" is nothing but propaganda. EVERY player with NBA potential has heard from scouts and they KNOW what they need to work on for the next level.

Ding ding ding ding diiiinng
 

qwesley

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Why can't Cal keep his players?
Starts with the sales pitch. We are a magnet for the often delusional. Last year we had a fringe top 50 recruit without a natural position that was pouting 5 games into the season and had to be suspended.

I don't like Roy but he has the balls to not play Nassir Little when he was a top 5 player because he just wasn't that good other than being athletic.
 
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Did Fats give him the same Camaro back, or issue him a new one?

Does this mean he’ll actually need to attend classes?
 

TFCat11

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He’s second round just like Oscar. And Oscar is likely to be back as well.
Man, I wish that were the case, but it would have already happened if it was going to. Oscar is professional bound, and I will actually watch some of his games. Guy is all class!!

Jumping way ahead now, wouldn’t be something if Cal ends up in LA and takes both Shaedon and Oscar with his two picks? 😵💫
 
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Kerwinwaltonsafro

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Very interesting that Bacot came in as a strong potential for one and done, but ends up staying 4 years. That's the Carolina way, where 5 stars go to be undrafted.
Maybe you should learn a bit more about what the NBA covets in their Centers in this new era of shooting and floor spacing.

They want 3pt shooters. Or they want shotblocking length and athleticism. Bacot is none of that. It doesn't matter what school he chose. He earned 5-star status for playing like a post player from the 1990s. The NBA doesn't spend 1st round picks on guys like that anymore.
 
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ManitouDan_anon

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Bacot is a dominate college player . A lot like O he's a little limited on what he does , but what he does do -- bang , score , rebound , he's tremendous . People can throw rocks at me all they want , but he would give Oscar fits . Bacot is too big to be pushed around . Tall, and long armed as well.
 

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My God. If some of you idiots who are still on board with Cal needed any more proof that his entire system is more than broken, here’s this. The best player in the ncaa tournament is coming back to one of our biggest rivals, probably because he loves playing there and wants to win a title.
 
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Bacot is a dominate college player . A lot like O he's a little limited on what he does , but what he does do -- bang , score , rebound , he's tremendous . People can throw rocks at me all they want , but he would give Oscar fits . Bacot is too big to be pushed around . Tall, and long armed as well.
They did play. Both did well.
Bacot 22 & 10
Oscar 16 & 12
 
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IroquoisPliskin

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My God. If some of you idiots who are still on board with Cal needed any more proof that his entire system is more than broken, here’s this. The best player in the ncaa tournament is coming back to one of our biggest rivals, probably because he loves playing there and wants to win a title.
He's coming back to make more money in college than the NBA. Just like Oscar
 

Blue Wildcat

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I really thought Hubert Davis would be the death of their program. No idea how he’ll be as a recruiter, but he can coach.
 
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Blueheart32

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Supposedly RJ Davis and Love are returning too. I would be a little bit surprised by Love but who knows. If all that happens, and depending on what they bring in, could be really really tough
 

Cats192

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He's similar to Oscar. Both will go 2nd round. Both can probably make a lot of NIL money at college.
I think we're going to get Oscar back. And I think with NIL in place, these guys that are good college players who won't be 1st round picks--I think they'll come back to college more and more.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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Hard to believe a guy that good in college doesnt have a game that fits the pro's .. I'd say the pendulum will swing back towards power players and dominate centers at some point . Just not now , everyone loves the three .
 

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I really thought Hubert Davis would be the death of their program. No idea how he’ll be as a recruiter, but he can coach.
Solid chance the #1 player in Rivals 2023 class will commit to UNC next week.

Seems like Hubert is going to be similar to Roy. Some elite recruits, some 4 year recruits. But with more transfer portal players, and more 3pt shooters.
 

UK90

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Very interesting that Bacot came in as a strong potential for one and done, but ends up staying 4 years. That's the Carolina way, where 5 stars go to be undrafted.
What do you think the primary purpose of college basketball programs is …just to produce NBA players? It baffles me that anyone would think this news reflects poorly on UNC.

And Bacot has not gone “undrafted”, instead he’s simply choosing to enter the draft next year rather than now (and, fwiw, we’ve had plenty of five stars go undrafted too, so does that make it the UK way?).
 

JC CATS

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I don’t pay attention to this stuff really, but I saw someone mention not long ago he and Oscar were both solidly second round. Makes sense for both to return.

Regarding the testing waters deal, I don’t really like the way the process has played out here either, but I also don’t think it makes a bit of difference. All our guys are gonna say they are testing waters, our staff knows who’s coming back or not with very few exceptions. That info is passed along to recruits and transfers behind the scenes I’m sure.

I agree it still is silly that they all will do this, but it’s a “branding” or perception thing at this point I guess. Miss the old days when it was cut and dry.
If you hope to play professional someday, testing the waters you get feedback from NBA teams what you need to work on
 

JC CATS

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What do you think the primary purpose of college basketball programs is …just to produce NBA players? It baffles me that anyone would think this news reflects poorly on UNC.

And Bacot has not gone “undrafted”, instead he’s simply choosing to enter the draft next year rather than now (and, fwiw, we’ve had plenty of five stars go undrafted too, so does that make it the UK way?).
Reflects poorly? Doesn't high school stats love to hear, come to N C you won't make it to NBA but you will get a degree. Look I know you're pissed, I'm pissed, but my God, that's a stretch to think it makes them more desirable
 

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If you hope to play professional someday, testing the waters you get feedback from NBA teams what you need to work on
Bacot got NBA feedback last summer. The NBA didn't suddenly change in one year. Their feedback was going to be the same - "show us you can make 3 pointers." And it's not like he can workout at the combine if he's in a walking boot.
 

JC CATS

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Bacot got NBA feedback last summer. The NBA didn't suddenly change in one year. Their feedback was going to be the same - "show us you can make 3 pointers." And it's not like he can workout at the combine if he's in a walking boot.
Then he couldn't declare ND come back if I understand the rule right! My point was there's nothing wrong with testing the waters and see what you need to work on. Bacot did that
 
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Bacot isn't even on every draft board, why wouldn't he come back? Some dude who might go late 2nd at the best wants to come back with NIL? Why are people giving a diatribe on Cal for this? Oscar is better and most likely coming back. Calm down.
 

STL_Cat

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Bacot isn't even on every draft board, why wouldn't he come back? Some dude who might go late 2nd at the best wants to come back with NIL? Why are people giving a diatribe on Cal for this? Oscar is better and most likely coming back. Calm down.
Jacob Toppin on draft boards? We're told here every time someone declares "you'd be dumb to not declare and get feedback."
 

RalphDaltonFan

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I thought someone posted a week or so back that Bacot was going to try and transfer to UK ?
That was actually being discussed. Bacot was interested in UK last offseason and when their season was in dumps...it was talked about seriously through back channels that he'd be interested in going to Lexington. Rupp's Runt wasn't wrong about this at all. Thing is...once they went on that run and made Final Four it was about whether he'd return to UNC or go Pro. So the info wasn't wrong just dated.
 

westerncat

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That was actually being discussed. Bacot was interested in UK last offseason and when their season was in dumps...it was talked about seriously through back channels that he'd be interested in going to Lexington. Rupp's Runt wasn't wrong about this at all. Thing is...once they went on that run and made Final Four it was about whether he'd return to UNC or go Pro. So the info wasn't wrong just dated.
Thanks I knew I had read some information on that somewhere.
 

Atrain7732

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If you hope to play professional someday, testing the waters you get feedback from NBA teams what you need to work on
Oh I understand what it does. There is little value or purpose IMO for someone like Toppin or Brooks to test the waters and no other school regularly has guys like that testing waters from what I’ve seen.

HST, it doesn’t bother me too much bc I think it is more of a perception thing it’s how it’s always been done here if guys don’t test they will be looked at as below others who have. It doesn’t effect recruiting at all far as I can tell.

Anyone who has pro aspirations, whether oversees or not, can get feedback on their game by working out with scouts privately or even talking to them regarding their game (which I think does happen often). I don’t have an issue with this really, but I do think it’s become a bit silly for certain guys to do it.
 
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Catfan2226

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Oh stop it. He tested the waters last year and your only allowed to once. He knows flat out he isn't a NBA player pretty much like Oscar is in the eyes of NBA execs.
Oh stop it.You can declare twice without losing eligibility as long as you dont hire an unapproved NCAA agent.
There,I corrected ya