Looks like the new DC is Peter Sirmon....

HD6

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former NFL linebacker with the Titans, now LB coach and recruiting coordinator at USC.
 

Mack Rebennack

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Good hire - He doesn't have the coaching experience of Rhoades, but he is intense and should help us out a lot.

Can we start our coaches?
 

Hanmudog

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I like the title "recruiting coordinator at USC". We need more talent as much as we need the X's and O's.
 

RocketDawg

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Can he 'croot?

Bio says he's recruiting coordinator at USC and that they had a top 10 class.

He went to Oregon and played there in the late-mid 90s, which I think is probably when we played them. If that's the right time frame, without looking, he's been on campus before.
 

SPMT

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Recruiting at USCw and at State are vastly different.

Wonder what made us hire someone with no DC experience......?
 

Sack N City

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Sirmon looks just like what we need. First, somebody whocan recruit out of state. His initial2014 recruiting class ranked among the nation’s Top 10 (tops in the Pac-12) andthe 2015 class was No. 1 nationally. ( 4 five star recruits and 15 four stars) and the 2016 class so far has 2 five stars and 8 for stars out of 14commits. Since he is young and has played in the NFL, Sirmon should be able to connect with recruits well and relate to the players well. He alsoknows the South since he played with theTitans and coached with the Tennessee Vols.His football knowledge is shown by hispro football experience and his coaching at Tennessee and USC. I expect excellentcoaching on the field. He should be able to get all of the defensive coaches on the same pagecausing the groups to function as a unit.<o:p></o:p>
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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He spent 9 years living in Tn

And two of those recruiting. So he's no virgin to the area.

If he can play chess, he's in.

I suspect that Dan can tell.
 

mount lefroy

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Recruiting at USCw and at State are vastly different.

Wonder what made us hire someone with no DC experience......?

Same thing that made us hire an oc with no hc experience. Its a gamble, but a pretty good one.

Recruiting isnt just a talent. He brings familiarity with a region we probably dont posses now. He brings youth and energy. He probably isnt expensive.
 

was21

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Trust Dan to do his homework. Starkvegas is not for everybody so he should be coming over with eyes wide open. He's a family man with wife and four kids...bright lights of LA are not for everybody either. Looking for a diamond in the rough on this one. Welcome aboard Coarch Sirmon.
 

msstate7

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Trust Dan to do his homework. Starkvegas is not for everybody so he should be coming over with eyes wide open. He's a family man with wife and four kids...bright lights of LA are not for everybody either. Looking for a diamond in the rough on this one. Welcome aboard Coarch Sirmon.

One of those 4,kids is a lb (class of '18) with a Washington offer already
 

dannyripms

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I was about to post that, looks like his son is going to be a good linebacker. Probably play at starkville or what do u guys think
 

aTotal360

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Hopefully they are stuffing all the money they saved on this hire into dufflebags.
 
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I know folks might be jazzed up by Sirmon's recruiting reputation, however I cannot shake the ZERO experience as a Defensive Coordinator bad feeling.

So let's just look at next year---Peter Sirmon (ZERO experience as DC) versus Leonard Fournette & LSU in Baton Rouge, and Auburn / Gus Malzahn's Offense, and Texas A&M / Summlin's pass happy Offense with Oklahoma QB transfer Trevor Knight who beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl, Arkansas with a ground & pound Offense, and Bama with a ground & pound Offense in Tuscaloosa, and a dynamic BYU Offense in Mormon Land Provo Utah, and finally Ole Miss with Chad Machine Gun Kelly plus awesome WRs in Oxfart. If we were keeping Dak we maybe could win some shoot out games like the Arkansas game this year but we won't have him next year.

We desperately needed a "4 or 5 star" Defensive Coordinator this year and Dan brought in a "project" Defensive Coordinator. I try to stay positive and just let "drt" handle the gloom and doom posts but this is not a good hire ESPECIALLY for a SEC team! I would feel much better getting a Defensive Coordinator from a FCS team or even a JUCO team like MS Gulf Coast or EMCC.

I hope Sirmon proves me completely wrong next year...but I am really afraid that I am right.
 

missouridawg

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I know folks might be jazzed up by Sirmon's recruiting reputation, however I cannot shake the ZERO experience as a Defensive Coordinator bad feeling.

So let's just look at next year---Peter Sirmon (ZERO experience as DC) versus Leonard Fournette & LSU in Baton Rouge, and Auburn / Gus Malzahn's Offense, and Texas A&M / Summlin's pass happy Offense with Oklahoma QB transfer Trevor Knight who beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl, Arkansas with a ground & pound Offense, and Bama with a ground & pound Offense in Tuscaloosa, and a dynamic BYU Offense in Mormon Land Provo Utah, and finally Ole Miss with Chad Machine Gun Kelly plus awesome WRs in Oxfart. If we were keeping Dak we maybe could win some shoot out games like the Arkansas game this year but we won't have him next year.

We desperately needed a "4 or 5 star" Defensive Coordinator this year and Dan brought in a "project" Defensive Coordinator. I try to stay positive and just let "drt" handle the gloom and doom posts but this is not a good hire ESPECIALLY for a SEC team! I would feel much better getting a Defensive Coordinator from a FCS team or even a JUCO team like MS Gulf Coast or EMCC.

I hope Sirmon proves me completely wrong next year...but I am really afraid that I am right.

He has coaches against.. Mike Leach, Oregons circus act, Stanfords pro style, Ariz spread, ASU spread, UCLA sets, ND, and Utah.

What Im trying to say, is he has faced the gamut of offenses as a LB coach. I hope he can turn those experiences into a great D here.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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He is also the one who brought D. Stringfellow to Washington..ha small world.

Bio says he's recruiting coordinator at USC and that they had a top 10 class.

He went to Oregon and played there in the late-mid 90s, which I think is probably when we played them. If that's the right time frame, without looking, he's been on campus before.

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Yep, statistically the PAC 12 are much better offenses. However those West Coast boys get to play against PAC 12 Defenses---the folks I listed have had success against SEC Defenses. And since 2000 the SEC has had more Heisman winners than the PAC 12, although it is close thanks to the Reggie Bush USC days of the early 2000's.
 
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Wow. Color me completely disappointed. I was hoping for Rhoads because of his stellar track record as a DC, but we hire a guy who has called plays in one game in his career (that they lost) to become the Defensive Coordinator for an SEC institution. Okay.

This guy will need Turner to take a break from coaching up the DL just to change his pullups. Jesus. Do we have to keep juice boxes on the sidelines to keep him from throwing temper tantrums?!
 

msstate7

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Wow. Color me completely disappointed. I was hoping for Rhoads because of his stellar track record as a DC, but we hire a guy who has called plays in one game in his career (that they lost) to become the Defensive Coordinator for an SEC institution. Okay.

This guy will need Turner to take a break from coaching up the DL just to change his pullups. Jesus. Do we have to keep juice boxes on the sidelines to keep him from throwing temper tantrums?!

What the hell?

Mullen got our HC job with no experience. Why can't we hire a DC with no experience? Dj durkin was a lb coach with no DC experience when muschamp hired him... 3 years later dj's a HC at Maryland
 
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David Turner has to feel a little depression, he has been coaching for 30 years and over 20 years on the Defensive side of the ball, he is on his 2nd stint at MSU under Dan Mullen, and when Diaz leaves and Turner sees a chance to rise in the ranks Mullen hires a 38 year old guy with a whopping 7 years of coaching experience.
 

msstate7

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David Turner has to feel a little depression, he has been coaching for 30 years and over 20 years on the Defensive side of the ball, he is on his 2nd stint at MSU under Dan Mullen, and when Diaz leaves and Turner sees a chance to rise in the ranks Mullen hires a 38 year old guy with a whopping 7 years of coaching experience.

Are any dc's dline coaches? I'm sure there are some, but almost all are lb or secondary
 

Wizard.sixpack

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David Turner has to feel a little depression, he has been coaching for 30 years and over 20 years on the Defensive side of the ball, he is on his 2nd stint at MSU under Dan Mullen, and when Diaz leaves and Turner sees a chance to rise in the ranks Mullen hires a 38 year old guy with a whopping 7 years of coaching experience.

Does he want to be a DC? just because he has done a job for a long time doesnt mean he is just waiting for a better job..You would think after 30 years of coaching the thought of jumping to DC would have come up...what maybe year 9,10? Maybe he likes his job.
 

engie

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Wow. Color me completely disappointed. I was hoping for Rhoads because of his stellar track record as a DC, but we hire a guy who has called plays in one game in his career (that they lost) to become the Defensive Coordinator for an SEC institution. Okay.

This guy will need Turner to take a break from coaching up the DL just to change his pullups. Jesus. Do we have to keep juice boxes on the sidelines to keep him from throwing temper tantrums?!

I don't see how being a good dc in the days before spread offenses really translates to anything now. Rhoads was a defensive-minded head coach whose entire career of defenses at Iowa State were #87, #95, #96, #99, #106, #108 and #128 in the country. That's a known commodity -- and not in a good way.

Let me roll the dice.
 

engie

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David Turner has to feel a little depression, he has been coaching for 30 years and over 20 years on the Defensive side of the ball, he is on his 2nd stint at MSU under Dan Mullen, and when Diaz leaves and Turner sees a chance to rise in the ranks Mullen hires a 38 year old guy with a whopping 7 years of coaching experience.

He had his chance in the Orange Bowl. Some guys aren't meant to be DCs.

If I'm choosing between the 30 year vet that's never called a defense -- or the 7 year guy that's flown up through the ranks, played in the league for awhile, and who was getting alot of interest from multiple power 5 teams to be a DC -- I'm going with the latter every time.
 
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leeinator

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His money will go about 3 times further than in the LA valley. Of course, he gives up the beaches and the glitz, but as you say, that may not be his bag. Traffic in LA is 24/7 like rush hour in Memphis. That was what I hated the most out there.
 
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