Is Mullen a "lazy recruiter"?

tired

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Lazy may be too strong. Does he give "relentless effort" in recruiting?
 

Palos verdes

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What I don't understand is why we don't have 5-6 D-linemen and O-linemen committed by now.
 
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KurtRambis4

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I think his biggest

weakness is not arranging for scholarships for 5* players' siblings or jobs for their families. That seems to work well for others.
 

MonkDawg

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Hate to think what our recruiting is going to look like if Hughes goes to JSU. He's the only one on our staff who seems to be a great recruiter. We've got 3 absolute studs right in our backyard (Brown, Simmons, and Lashley) that should be locks for us. Please somebody give me some hope we can sign them.
 

BulldogBlitz

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No, he just doesn't know how to get croots to campus without driving them past a closed waffle house.
 

Palos verdes

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One thing is for sure, our recruiting has not gained any traction from last year's success. In fact, it has retracted somewhat.
 

tired

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One thing is for sure, our recruiting has not gained any traction from last year's success. In fact, it has retracted somewhat.

I agree with this, which is why I posed the question. Whether its effort, personality or whatever, there's something going on, or lack thereof. & I don't want to hear its "poor ol' MS State..
 

dawgoneyall

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I just don't think he gets "it".

He needs to hire someone who does.

We passed on Orgeron. Mistake.
 
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Sandman.sixpack

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Hate to think what our recruiting is going to look like if Hughes goes to JSU. He's the only one on our staff who seems to be a great recruiter. We've got 3 absolute studs right in our backyard (Brown, Simmons, and Lashley) that should be locks for us. Please somebody give me some hope we can sign them.
IMO... Coach Turner is also a great recruiter. All of our recruiters are good except Hevesy and it's ok to have one or two who are primarily just good on the field coaches and I think Hevesy does a good job at that. Don't forget that we ranked ahead of Ole Miss for last year's class after trailing them right up to the final week (when Leo flipped).
Hughes does a great job, but if he leaves, we'll find someone to replace him.
I think we'll sign all three of (Brown, Simmons and Lashley). At least two of the three.
 
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was21

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No sweat...there's always a troll hanging out. Number of posts at times tells the tale
 

aTotal360

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He's arguably the worst recruiting in our division. And we are about to lose our best recruiter on the staff. Hope Mullen finds a fix.
 

CochiseCowbell

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Slight thread hi-jack: how the 17 does a Waffle House not thrive in a college town? Are other places staying open later now? Was it location? Were cops hanging out in the parking lot or on the route? Do college kids no longer have the local WH number programmed in their phones to place a to go order from the bar shortly after last call for a Double Patty Melt plate, hold the onions, scattered, covered, & chunked?
 

jethreauxdawg

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Lack of revenue

Slight thread hi-jack: how the 17 does a Waffle House not thrive in a college town?

I was rarely asked to pay for everything I ordered. Also, not sure what I did pay actually went into the register. I doubt I was the only one getting free food.
 

HunterDawg

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He came from Florida, a state that has enough talent to field a half dozen quality teams. He was at UF, the dominant team in the state. They seldom had to leave the state for talent. They just worked relationships with Florida high school coaches and it worked. They got some out of state talent, but they didn't have to.

He mistakenly believed, as did many of us, that if we concentrated on Mississippi and dominated it, there was enough talent here to build a great team. He has never spent a lot of time recruiting nationally.

If we could get all the talent in this state, he might be right, but Alabama gets some, LSU gets some, Auburn, TN, and Ole Miss. It is not possible to get enough talent in this state alone to build what we want.

He needs to change his focus and start going after talent regardless of zip code. Maybe he will do that, but it would be a radical change. It will take time.
 

AROB44

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No....he just doesn't inform message boards of everything is doing every minute of the day and night. Hence....he is a bad recruiter because he doesn't give hourly updates.
 

patdog

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He came from Utah and Bowling Green too. Not exactly two easy places to recruit players to.
 

maroonmania

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I don't think Mullen is lazy in any way. I just don't think he likes it.

I believe this is the answer. I believe he loves coaching but just sort of tolerates the recruiting part. Most folks that don't love doing something rarely end up excelling at it. Freeze and staff, on the other hand, seem to eat, sleep and drink recruiting which is a good match with their fanbase since most Reb fans had rather win a recruiting battle than an actual football game anyway.
 

bulldogcountry1

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I think he is discouraged because his hands are tied, but I also think he isn't creative enough to make a quick impression on 18 year old males during visits. Yeah, Starkville isn't for everyone, but there's enough there for a good recruiter to work with. Selling the whole family atmosphere is great, but there's a lot more that can be done that doesn't involve bags.
 

maroonmania

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I think he is discouraged because his hands are tied, but I also think he isn't creative enough to make a quick impression on 18 year old males during visits. Yeah, Starkville isn't for everyone, but there's enough there for a good recruiter to work with. Selling the whole family atmosphere is great, but there's a lot more that can be done that doesn't involve bags.

Apparently needs a quick lesson from Howland on how to untie his hands.
 

512taylor

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I was rarely asked to pay for everything I ordered. Also, not sure what I did pay actually went into the register. I doubt I was the only one getting free food.

"I doubt I was the only one getting free food"


So, the way I see it, you did not pay for something you know you owed ?
 

Sandman.sixpack

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One thing is for sure, our recruiting has not gained any traction from last year's success. In fact, it has retracted somewhat.
Dan usually finishes strong like he did last year. I think we will sign Simmons and Brown and Lashley along with Raquon and a few others. Hopefully that'll get us in the top twenty.
If I remember right, last year we moved from about 35th to top 15 in the last month.
 

coachnorm

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Anyone who reads SixPack can do some research on recruiting. Just take any college program and Google it. Then click on "Roster". Readers can now look at all the out of state players rostered. I do this quite often so I cam be current with what is going on with the recruiting scene. An outrageous recruiting program is outside of Los Angeles called Victor Valley Community College. Victor Valley is approaching high desert in the middle of nowhere. You will be shocked to see the majority of the roster is out of state with many from the Southeast. JC coaches do not get big paychecks and do not have the benefits of a SEC coach yet these recruiting superstars overcome unbelievable odds to field a college football team? Starkville would be a breath of fresh air compared to Victor Valley yet so many Southerners are there playing football.
 
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