We had a couple LB arrested last night..

[KurtRambis4]

Anyone with an average level

of comprehension can deduce that I'm speaking of people committing crimes, being that this is what the threads about. I'm not talking about some 80 year old lady buying milk at the grocery store on a Wednesday morning.

Even if if I wasn't solely discussing criminals, it's generally a good idea to obey a police officer. If you don't believe me, then I really don't care.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Not if its an unreasonable request. Or he's trying to do field sobriety testing. You tell him politely no. Him having a badge does not take away my rights.

 

[ronpolk]

I'd like anyone to give me an example of a situation being helped by not doing what an officer asked you to do? Even if the officer is in the wrong with his request that stuff will get sorted out. That's what judges are for. A cop is just the first line of justice. If the cop does you wrong trust the courts to handle it. I'd say most of the time, they get it right.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Whenever you have an open container, have had something to drink and refused to take a field soberity test or a mobile breath test.

A blood test hours later reads 0.0.

 

[ronpolk]

Whenever you have an open container, have had something to drink and refused to take a field soberity test or a mobile breath test.

A blood test hours later reads 0.0.

Well taking a field test is not an order of the officer... It's a request. And you can certainly refuse it.

 

[BoomBoom.sixpack]

Well taking a field test is not an order of the officer... It's a request. And you can certainly refuse it.

"Request". Sha, right. When's the last time you interacted with a cop making a "request"?

 

[BoomBoom.sixpack]

I'd like anyone to give me an example of a situation being helped by not doing what an officer asked you to do? Even if the officer is in the wrong with his request that stuff will get sorted out. That's what judges are for. A cop is just the first line of justice. If the cop does you wrong trust the courts to handle it. I'd say most of the time, they get it right.

When the cop is asking for incriminating info without the right for it. Or for example when witnessing questionable behavior by the police and being told not to film it. Pushing the envelope on filming police is absolutely essential to liberty right now. But yes, there will likely be consequencies in standing up for freedom, worse ones if you do it wrong.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Holy cow*

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[SheltonChoked]

Funny. It sounded like an order. Just like another time when a cop asked to search my car. I said no. He said I could be detained until he got a warrant. I told him he was wrong.

I was pulled over for "illegal lane change". I didn't signal when I pulled to the shoulder.

The key to disobeying the police is not to be a jackass. Not to do what they say. Police can and will lie. And will try to trick you into incriminating yourself. Even if you've done nothing wrong.

 

[ronpolk]

When the cop is asking for incriminating info without the right for it. Or for example when witnessing questionable behavior by the police and being told not to film it. Pushing the envelope on filming police is absolutely essential to liberty right now. But yes, there will likely be consequencies in standing up for freedom, worse ones if you do it wrong.

I think you guys are taking what I'm saying out of context... This thread is about a group of kids that had beer and ended up getting arrested. Would you not agree that a little cooperation with the PD would have likely had a different outcome for our football players. You guys are talking about taking a constitutional right protecting you from illegal searches. Totally different scenario and not what this thread was about at all. You certainly have the right to protect your constitutional rights but once a cop tells you that you're under arrested, you should probably do what he says. If a cop really wants to arrest you, he's probably going to.

 

[paindonthurt_]

You are comparing the refusal of a mobile breath test with disorderly conduct or fighting with a police officer?