May be wrong, but didn't we play NC State in the '63 Liberty in Philadelphia? Seems Jack C said it was so cold that coffee froze in cups pretty quickly. MSU led by Sonny Fisher won the game as I remember.
1963 Liberty Bowl
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My memory may be well off, but I think you're right, and it was the inaugural Liberty Bowl. I was thinking we lost to NC State though. We also played Air Force at some point, after it was moved to Memphis I think, and we lost that one.
Bowl invitations were much harder to get back then.
Bowl invitations were much harder to get back then.
lost to Air Force at the end of the '91 season in jackie's first year. Also lost to NC State in the peach bowl a few years later. '94 season, I believe.
Alabama and Penn State...
Played in the inaugural Liberty Bowl in '59. The '63 game was the last one played in Philly. Atlantic City hosted the '64 game in the Convention Hall that also hosted the Miss American pageant for years. It was the first bowl game played indoors. The Liberty Bowl then moved to Memphis in '65.
Played in the inaugural Liberty Bowl in '59. The '63 game was the last one played in Philly. Atlantic City hosted the '64 game in the Convention Hall that also hosted the Miss American pageant for years. It was the first bowl game played indoors. The Liberty Bowl then moved to Memphis in '65.
You are a little off....It was the inaugural Liberty Bowl in Philadelphia, Pa. We won...did not lose. I remember it well....Sonny Fisher, Ode Burell, Hoyle Granger, etc. Wasn't on TVI don't think, but we listened to Jack on the radio.
I was at this game as a little kid but old enough to remember a little about it. It was very cold (as it always is in Memphis) and something about cheese slices. Was it the Air Force fans throwing cheese slices?
Yes ..
The game was broadcast by NBC .. in black & white. Made you cold just watching it on TV .. while listening to Jack do play-by-play on the radio!
The game was broadcast by NBC .. in black & white. Made you cold just watching it on TV .. while listening to Jack do play-by-play on the radio!
I recall jack saying that....
They would bring the broadcast team hot coffee that they sat on the ledge in front of them to drink when they had a chance but it would freeze before they could partake.
Must have had a pretty stiff wind going that day because according to one account I read the temp started at 22 F at game time and dropped to 15 F by game end. That is cold for sure but not anywhere close to the bitter conditions that are often present at lambeau or the old MN viking stadium. For sure not cold enought to freeze hot coffee in just a few minutes unless a good breeze was blowing. Then again, seems like I read something somewhere about hot water freezing faster than cold water.
Incidentally, I've been to quite a few freezing football games but without question the coldest I have ever been personally at any sporting event has been at DNF in feb/march.
They would bring the broadcast team hot coffee that they sat on the ledge in front of them to drink when they had a chance but it would freeze before they could partake.
Must have had a pretty stiff wind going that day because according to one account I read the temp started at 22 F at game time and dropped to 15 F by game end. That is cold for sure but not anywhere close to the bitter conditions that are often present at lambeau or the old MN viking stadium. For sure not cold enought to freeze hot coffee in just a few minutes unless a good breeze was blowing. Then again, seems like I read something somewhere about hot water freezing faster than cold water.
Incidentally, I've been to quite a few freezing football games but without question the coldest I have ever been personally at any sporting event has been at DNF in feb/march.
My dad was in the FMB then. The old tuba mouthpiece was about like the lamppost in "A Christmas Story," from what he's told me.
I think Jack was exaggerating just a bit. And no, hot water does not freeze quicker than cold.
Philadelphia is not a particularly cold place. Those temperatures were unusual ... nothing like Minnesota and the other upper midwest.
Philadelphia is not a particularly cold place. Those temperatures were unusual ... nothing like Minnesota and the other upper midwest.
Which one was the Freezer Bowl? Was that Green Bay/Dallas? But I think the one you're referring to was in the early 80s in Cincinnati, even colder than the Green Bay game. No way would I sit out in that to see any team.
Kinda sad, but I remember all those players. I was still in high school at the time, but it's a sign I'm getting old.
That's a funny analogy.....looking forward to watching that classic again soon.....thanks for adding to the thread.
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