I remember my grand dad telling me he knew several Baptist Preachers who were members of the KKK.
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I remember my grand dad telling me he knew several Baptist Preachers who were members of the KKK.
Mullen is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Hevesey is as good at recruiting as MJ was at playing baseball. These guys need to get married together and coach somewhere else, buncha **** boys.
I'm curious as to why you think he's so disingenuous. Because our boosters are better than yours? Do you believe Mark Richt is fake? or that Mullen is fake when he brings his players to church?
Don't play dumb. This is equivalent to a State fan saying "What? You think Dan Mullen can be a jerk sometimes?? I'm aghast!" with a smirk on his face.
It's so clear to everyone who hears him talk after a win, but then sees a video of him cussing out a fan after a loss, or responding to comments on twitter with a threat. The guy has one persona he tries very hard to maintain in public, and another one off-camera. He preaches "my boys are just playin' with love" after a big win, but storms off the field when he loses.
And to your final point - uh, no, Mullen doesn't get on TV every chance he gets and talk about his faith. He just acts it out quietly and behind the scenes - you know, like you're supposed to? Unlike the Pharisee on the corner telling everyone how many times he's prayed today. But of course, you know all this. You're just doing your job on the Rebel Defense nightshift.
It's so clear to everyone who hears him talk after a win, but then sees a video of him cussing out a fan after a loss, or responding to comments on twitter with a threat. The guy has one persona he tries very hard to maintain in public, and another one off-camera. He preaches "my boys are just playin' with love" after a big win, but storms off the field when he loses.
And to your final point - uh, no, Mullen doesn't get on TV every chance he gets and talk about his faith. He just acts it out quietly and behind the scenes - you know, like you're supposed to? Unlike the Pharisee on the corner telling everyone how many times he's prayed today. But of course, you know all this. You're just doing your job on the Rebel Defense nightshift.
The rebel defense night shift line is very clever, you should probably use it more often.***
I'm not a religious person and I roll my eyes every time Hugh is asked about his faith, but I've met him and his family and I know how sincere it is. You're talking about a man who not only often has his own daughters at practices but encourages the coaches to have their families present too. There's no cameras there. There also aren't cameras at the coaches meeting where he or another coach opens it with a prayer, every single day. Faith and family are both very important to Freeze.
I'm sure you won't believe me and that's perfectly fine. After all, I am a black bear rebel shark.
I'm not a religious person and I roll my eyes every time Hugh is asked about his faith, but I've met him and his family and I know how sincere it is. You're talking about a man who not only often has his own daughters at practices but encourages the coaches to have their families present too. There's no cameras there. There also aren't cameras at the coaches meeting where he or another coach opens it with a prayer, every single day. Faith and family are both very important to Freeze.
I'm sure you won't believe me and that's perfectly fine. After all, I am a black bear rebel shark.
Kurt....you've never met me either. But since you know EVERYTHING and think you are God, tell me whether I am a legit Christian or not.
I don't like our loss last week either, but I'm not so Butt-hurt that I'm gonna start questioning the other coach's religious beliefs and family values, etc. I'm on record many times as saying Freeze is not a great coach and that Dan is the best coach we've ever had. But I'm not so red-assed and full of hate that I'm gonna question Freeze's morals and family values and the ligitimacy of his faith. What does it accomplish for us with you claiming that anyway? NOTHING!!
Rocket just told us Freeze opens every coaches meeting with a prayer session. It's been reported he goes on Mission trips every summer and still speaks at churches, etc. And without ever meeting the man, you know it's all fake? Wish I was as smart as you are!
I don't like our loss last week either, but I'm not so Butt-hurt that I'm gonna start questioning the other coach's religious beliefs and family values, etc. I'm on record many times as saying Freeze is not a great coach and that Dan is the best coach we've ever had. But I'm not so red-assed and full of hate that I'm gonna question Freeze's morals and family values and the ligitimacy of his faith. What does it accomplish for us with you claiming that anyway? NOTHING!!
Rocket just told us Freeze opens every coaches meeting with a prayer session. It's been reported he goes on Mission trips every summer and still speaks at churches, etc. And without ever meeting the man, you know it's all fake? Wish I was as smart as you are!
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I think he sounds more "down to earth", like people in the South are used to talking. Not his fault, but something Mullen doesn't have.
You know I won't believe you, but you posted it anyway... On a State board...
After midnight... What would you call it? Why exactly DO you monitor and post on this message board, if not solely to defend the honor of the Rebels?
(By the way, yes I think it's hilarious that your school had an identity crisis, voted on a new mascot, and wants everyone to use the name landsharks... but I for one still use the term Rebels. I think it's perfectly fitting for your fanbase and the school's real identity. Why would I help deflect from that?)
"Hotty Toddy gosh amighty, who the hell are we? Flim-flam, by damn."
But by all means, please create another post telling us how you don't care what we think about that two-faced insincere huckster you have as a head coach.
After midnight... What would you call it? Why exactly DO you monitor and post on this message board, if not solely to defend the honor of the Rebels?
(By the way, yes I think it's hilarious that your school had an identity crisis, voted on a new mascot, and wants everyone to use the name landsharks... but I for one still use the term Rebels. I think it's perfectly fitting for your fanbase and the school's real identity. Why would I help deflect from that?)
"Hotty Toddy gosh amighty, who the hell are we? Flim-flam, by damn."
But by all means, please create another post telling us how you don't care what we think about that two-faced insincere huckster you have as a head coach.
If you want an honest opinion from someone who thinks the Morality Super Bowl that all fans do is stupid, here is mine.
I don't care whether Freeze is genuine or not. I don't care if he's a Christian, a Scientologist, or an atheist. I don't care if he lies to every player he has ever recruited. The only thing I care about is whether he gets talent to the program, and whether he gets those players to buy in and follow him, leading to wins on the field. (If most of you are honest with yourselves, that's all you really care about too. You'd take Miami of the 1980s over the Croom years and not think twice about it.)
Some of our fans may want to play the "our coach is a nice guy" game. I'll admit that can be fun at times, and I'm sure it's annoying, but that's just a secondary discussion for me. His job is to win games period. Saban is an *** to the media, and I haven't heard him ever talk about his religion, but he wins. I don't really care the method, just as long as it works.
All that said, this is the South, and when recruiting players from this region, a Christian faith and a Christian-based program approach can help. For that reason, I'm glad Freeze has made that part of his program. I think he's genuine in that aspect of how he handles his program. He did it at Briarcrest, at Lambuth, and at Arkansas State. It's not new, but I personally don't care whether it's genuine or not. I care whether or not he wins. So far, so good on that front.
On the money piece, money doesn't win recruiting battles, unless it's a ridiculous amount. Everyone is paying something. Usually the player goes where he has the most fun and where he likes the coaches best. Compensation is going to happen wherever he goes if he's good. Did you guys see the car photo Derek Henry posted? If any program shouldn't "have" to compensate, it would be Bama, but they still most certainly do. If they didn't, they wouldn't have top classes anymore.
Some on here have said that Freeze would be a mega-church preacher if he wasn't a football coach. I agree with that. Mega-church preachers all have one thing in common though. They're great at appealing to your emotions and selling you a message. If they weren't, they wouldn't have a mega-church. They'd have a nice little 50 person congregation. Freeze is really good at appealing to the emotions and making you want to follow him, and it does serve him well in recruiting.
I don't care whether Freeze is genuine or not. I don't care if he's a Christian, a Scientologist, or an atheist. I don't care if he lies to every player he has ever recruited. The only thing I care about is whether he gets talent to the program, and whether he gets those players to buy in and follow him, leading to wins on the field. (If most of you are honest with yourselves, that's all you really care about too. You'd take Miami of the 1980s over the Croom years and not think twice about it.)
Some of our fans may want to play the "our coach is a nice guy" game. I'll admit that can be fun at times, and I'm sure it's annoying, but that's just a secondary discussion for me. His job is to win games period. Saban is an *** to the media, and I haven't heard him ever talk about his religion, but he wins. I don't really care the method, just as long as it works.
All that said, this is the South, and when recruiting players from this region, a Christian faith and a Christian-based program approach can help. For that reason, I'm glad Freeze has made that part of his program. I think he's genuine in that aspect of how he handles his program. He did it at Briarcrest, at Lambuth, and at Arkansas State. It's not new, but I personally don't care whether it's genuine or not. I care whether or not he wins. So far, so good on that front.
On the money piece, money doesn't win recruiting battles, unless it's a ridiculous amount. Everyone is paying something. Usually the player goes where he has the most fun and where he likes the coaches best. Compensation is going to happen wherever he goes if he's good. Did you guys see the car photo Derek Henry posted? If any program shouldn't "have" to compensate, it would be Bama, but they still most certainly do. If they didn't, they wouldn't have top classes anymore.
Some on here have said that Freeze would be a mega-church preacher if he wasn't a football coach. I agree with that. Mega-church preachers all have one thing in common though. They're great at appealing to your emotions and selling you a message. If they weren't, they wouldn't have a mega-church. They'd have a nice little 50 person congregation. Freeze is really good at appealing to the emotions and making you want to follow him, and it does serve him well in recruiting.
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Are people really that naive? Personalities, religion, southern or yankee.....all that means nothing compared to money and hot girls.
One school is handing out the cash, cars and housing. One school has a fan base that isn't afraid to show up in town just for a recruiting weekend and kiss a teenager's rear. The other isn't doing those things. Sucks for Mullen but he coaches at the latter.
One school is handing out the cash, cars and housing. One school has a fan base that isn't afraid to show up in town just for a recruiting weekend and kiss a teenager's rear. The other isn't doing those things. Sucks for Mullen but he coaches at the latter.
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