Can you blame Dan for wanting out?

[deadheaddawg]

People here want to pack his bags after having the most sucessful 7 year run in OUR HISTORY.

You say you dont want a coach that doesnt want to be here, maybe Dan Mullen doesnt want a job where the people dont want him

 

[Lakedawg]

People are over-emotional and fickle by nature. However, Dan is now dealing with expectations he purposefully created. It's ridiculous to be this mad after an 8 win season. Could thinks have gone better? Hell yes. Could they have gone worse? Ask Croom and Nutt. Everyone just needs to stay off Twitter and Facebook for a few weeks until they get their head right. Wanting Mullen gone is ridiculous and not giving him credit in any way.

 

[deadheaddawg]

He needs to improve recruiting. Freeze is stacking stars and that makes us uneasy. But Dan Mullen can continue to be good for us

 

[Drebin]

People here want to pack his bags after having the most sucessful 7 year run in OUR HISTORY.

You say you dont want a coach that doesnt want to be here, maybe Dan Mullen doesnt want a job where the people dont want him

I hear what you're saying but people are pissed and it's fair. He has seemed very disengaged and unemotional at times and it has shown on the field more than once. He ramped the Ole Miss hate up to level 10 during his first few years and got us all in a frenzy over it, and now he's had teams get absolutely dismantled in consecutive years, and he’s shown little concern over it. It’s bad for booster relations, it’s bad for fan support, it’s bad for recruiting, and it’s bad for the locker room. You can’t just bury your head in the sand and say all is well because we won 8 games this year.

 

[patdog]

Dealing with unreasonable fans is part of the job for a coach. It won't be any different anywhere else he goes.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I'd like to see a red shirt comparison. Without any analysis, I think that MSU is top to bottom in better shape and the bears must keep getting stars and hoping that they pan out immediately. I just don't recall them "building" as much as plugging holes (of course I'm not a UM roster expert). Kind of reminds me of later JWS years. Let one class like that not immediately pan out and it falls apart. We just had a "bad" year at 8-4. I completely get the fact that we could've done much better is irritating but still. And finishing behind the bears in the SEC West for the first time in years is particularly bothersome.

 

[Lakedawg]

+1 to all the posts above. All good thoughts IMO. Unless they win a Natty and probably even then we will always have criticisms. Rightly so. Perspective is shaped by experience and our experience has changed. Thus, so has our collective perspective. Regardless, I'm willing to stomach some disappointment right now in order to see what responses/actions the staff has to this year. Building from Croom to here was the easy part. The next step is the hard part.

 

[dawgstudent]

He will get that at any school.

 

[deadheaddawg]

Dealing with unreasonable fans is part of the job for a coach. It won't be any different anywhere else he goes.

True, but if you are going to deal with unreasonable fans why not deal with them at a school that is easier to recruit at and/or doesnt play in the SEC west.

Are Duke fans wanting to run off Cutcliff (Duke has the EXACT same alltime winning percentage as state @.490%)?

 

[TNT.sixpack]

People here want to pack his bags after having the most sucessful 7 year run in OUR HISTORY.

You say you dont want a coach that doesnt want to be here, maybe Dan Mullen doesnt want a job where the people dont want him

Then why the hell would he say over and over again, that he wanted to change the standard at MSU? The "expecations have changed"...... I sat 2 years in a row no more than 30 feet from him, listening to him say that to a group. It's year 7 with our best QB ever. We didn't beat a ranked team. We finished the season unranked.

If he's gonna spout that gargabe and ask us to buy in, then he shouldn't take issue w/ the fact that we're pissed. He wanted this desire from the fans and He got it. So, then he should be able to handle it. He needs to answer for where we are in the process of getting our national championship and what the plan is going forward to address it. Because from where I sit, we're a long damn way from it.

 

[was21]

Guess if he had pulled a Muschamp after the game a lot of people would be happy. Nobody is inside of his mind and yet a lot of people think they know what he's thinking.....message boards are something else.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

But the answer would be to take a job that just fired their coach for 9 wins?

If he is wanting out because people are pissed off about two inept showings for the instate rival and pillow soft play, he would have fun at GA.

ive said it once yesterday and wil say it again. I'm sick of the predictable yearly coaching rumors that begin in late October and early November that is a huge distraction right through bowl season and in recruiting. If he wants out... Well 17n leave. If not, how about a statement he doesn't.

I catch hell if I don't produce too. I'm sorry if there is an ego problem and/ or he's sick of the murmers, he can look at his paycheck and get back to work.

it would be ok if the smoke of him leaving was every few years. That's par for the course with a good coach. But it's every..... Damn..... Year.

 

[MaroonNation]

Dont act like we are a charity job. We pay big bucks to Mullen. The fans have the right to hold him accountable when all outward appearences are he doesnt give a 17.

 

[Drebin]

Guess if he had pulled a Muschamp after the game a lot of people would be happy. Nobody is inside of his mind and yet a lot of people think they know what he's thinking.....message boards are something else.

I don't have to know what he's thinking. I see what he's putting on the field.

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

That's what I don't understand, what does he have to do to indicate he's pissed? Maybe he went home and drop kicked Heisman across the back yard.

 

[snoopdog]

I have more of a problem with Mullen every single year either A) shopping for his next job or B) allowing the rumors to continue, whichever it is.

 

[deadheaddawg]

I have more of a problem with Mullen every single year either A) shopping for his next job or B) allowing the rumors to continue, whichever it is.

Then we need to hire Hud or someone with Mississippi State ties. There is no reason for a person to not look for oppurtunities that might be better. Find someone where State is their dream job, or get used to it

 

[SyonaraStanz]

Where is all of this "Mullen wants out" talk coming from? I've seen Douche34 ranting about it on Swan Lake v2.0 and a few folks bringing it up here. Is this the latest MSU message board drama, or is there some real evidence of his disdain for MSU/Starkville/etc.?

 

[Dog316]

I hear what you're saying but people are pissed and it's fair. He has seemed very disengaged and unemotional at times and it has shown on the field more than once. He ramped the Ole Miss hate up to level 10 during his first few years and got us all in a frenzy over it, and now he's had teams get absolutely dismantled in consecutive years, and he’s shown little concern over it. It’s bad for booster relations, it’s bad for fan support, it’s bad for recruiting, and it’s bad for the locker room. You can’t just bury your head in the sand and say all is well because we won 8 games this year.

It's the same folks who wanted to fire Stansbury, who want to fire Cohen, who want to fire . You fill in the coaches name. The irrational, insensitive, immature people who can't evaluate the totality of the difficulty it means to play in a power conference and compete with teams that have seemingly unlimited resources and the mentality that you win at any cost. That my perspective.

 

[snoopdog]

I am use to it. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

 

[dannyripms]

I'd just like him to recruit better. We all saw what he can do with a bunch of 4 and 5 stars at florida. He whipped bama *** and won a natty. That's the only thing holding him back and if Scott isn't giving him all he needs to get those kids then Scott needs to pack his damn bags.

 

[was21]

Hud is dead in the water I hope. Are you up to date?

 

[deadheaddawg]

Hud is dead in the water I hope. Are you up to date?

I just used him because i cant think of another example of a coach who would want to go to state just because it is state

 

[lasher8]

This^^^

So many mindreaders...

 

[yjnkdawg]

He needs to improve recruiting. Freeze is stacking stars and that makes us uneasy. But Dan Mullen can continue to be good for us

Freeze has the OM Network, Without the Network, his recruiting skills may taper off somewhat.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Where is all of this "Mullen wants out" talk coming from?

Much is coming from OM alum, Scott Roussel, at Football Scoop. He has 'mentioned' Mullen and other jobs every year since 2010.

Already this year .. Virginia Tech .. "Sources tell us we’ll see evidence of that again with this hire, which many in the profession expect to occur within the next seven days. In making some calls this morning, FootballScoop heard from a number of sources that Dan Mullen is a serious candidate for the position.

Meanwhile, my VA Tech neighbor tells me that Justin Fuente was the 'ONLY' coach contacted by the Tech AD.

Within hours of Mark Richt being fired at Georgia, Footballscoop comes out with this .. "Per sources in the profession, Kirby Smart, Dan Mullen, and Jimbo Fisher are the three most likely targets for UGA. For Smart, this would be coming home. For Mullen, Georgia is his dream job.

 

[HD6]

How do you propose Mullen stop people from talking about him? He was asked about it at the press conference before the Egg Bowl and said he wasn't looking for a new job, that he loves the job he has. What more can he do?