Would be exactly what we need in the front court next year.
Would Castleton consider a 5th year with us?
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Idk maybe. I'll ask him next time I see him.
If he's eligible to transfer which I'm not sure on the particulars but he's alright. I wouldn't be like blown away if we had him cuz we're going to have damien Collins older. Unless he you know goes to the NBA draft which is a possibility I guess cuz he was a top pick there for a while.
I personally see big things Damian Collins future if he's here for another year. When the man reaches full size watch out
I personally see big things Damian Collins future if he's here for another year. When the man reaches full size watch out
We'll get 2 or 3.
If we weren't already the top spot for transfers, we will be now with Oscar as POY, Wheeler up for awards, and Grady in the mix..
Cal and UK should.. should.. have their pick of top transfers. But naturally some players will be like "na I think I'm gonna go to Vermont, I like what they offer"...
If we weren't already the top spot for transfers, we will be now with Oscar as POY, Wheeler up for awards, and Grady in the mix..
Cal and UK should.. should.. have their pick of top transfers. But naturally some players will be like "na I think I'm gonna go to Vermont, I like what they offer"...
I wonder if he would be interested? He's young and seems to be really improving. He can score the rock.
He could step up to the big stage. He went 32/8 yesterday against Murray, scoring almost half their points. I'd love to see him show interest in the Cats !! He's left-handed ... a mini Artis !! Go get him, Chin !!
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He could step up to the big stage. He went 32/8 yesterday against Murray, scoring almost half their points. I'd love to see him show interest in the Cats !! He's left-handed ... a mini Artis !! Go get him, Chin !!
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Please let Cal do the recruiting. He’s the one who know who’s coming back and what players we need. It’s like the many, many fans calling for Cal’s head when he didn’t take Cockburn. That seemed to turn out pretty well, plus it’s beginning to look more and more than Oscar may be coming back.
I would move Oscar to the 4 and incorporate the high-low game. It would be similar to Smith-Kessler at Auburn and would allow Oscar to develop his overall floor game. If Patterson could play with Cousins, Oscar could play with Broome or any other legitimate Center that wants to wear the Blue & White.
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I saw him play against Xavier in person and he seemed to be the real deal.I wonder if he would be interested? He's young and seems to be really improving. He can score the rock.
He could step up to the big stage. He went 32/8 yesterday against Murray, scoring almost half their points. I'd love to see him show interest in the Cats !! He's left-handed ... a mini Artis !! Go get him, Chin !!
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That’s ignorant. Why would you move the best rebounder ever out of the post.
Oh God no. No Oscar at the 4.
Not sure if serious but if so, he’s the tall guy for Florida that scored like 40% of their points. He’s decent, but whines a lot and has a very punchable face.
To get a rim-protector on defense. We need one.
Broome averages 3.8 BPG
Oscar averages 1.5 BPG
Broome would match-up with 7-footers.
To get a quality big man that can stay for 2 years and fully-develop. Broome is a Frosh.
Oscar can certainly adjust to having help inside … he will have to in the NBA. He is smart.
Oscar averages 5.3 ORPG.
Broome averages 3.3 ORPG.
If OT misses from outside, Broome rebounds it.
They can both rebound on defense, of course.
Broome would be better than Brooks/Toppin most of the time, but not always, but he is certainly better than Ware and Collins.
Broome would make Oscar better from practicing together … and definitely vice versa.
I think Broome would make good sense.
Moot point, probably never play together, as Oscar will go pro. Broome can help us.
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I understand why you’re making this point, and I’m not saying you’re wrong; I actually think there is some legitimacy to your statement(s). But, I also understand the push back from others, which I have to agree with.
Personally, I would rather maintain a dominant “true” five, and focus on four other players who space the floor with greater athleticism and skill.
Castleton and/or Broome are nice players, but not necessarily what we need.
We have Jacob Toppin set to return next year and, hopefully, Bryce Hopkins; Bryce would be outstanding as a small-ball four and he would fill the role perfectly given his skill set.
Don’t forget, Damion Collins should return and with another offseason I could see him make a significant jump physically. He would be the athletic piece needed down low to alter shots and disrupt the lane with his length and athleticism.
Ultimately, we need to sure-up the backcourt with additional pieces: hopefully, Shaedon will return for another season before the Draft; I think we’ll see Cal find two, maybe three, guards to sign that can help replace the production we will be losing.
I will say, if Oscar does not return, we’ll need a dominant five down low—look for Armando Bacot to be a potential option to fill that void.
Nonetheless, we’ll find the pieces we need for next year to make another great run.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply that makes good sense. To win it all, we have to have answers for quality height. I think a player like Broome definitely helps us eliminate bad match-up situations against quality teams. Skilled height down low and perimeter quickness have worried me all year. GO CATS !!!
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An easy way to alleviate a lot of that down low is to also have outstanding perimeter defense and guys who can really make it tough to get into the lane. This year, when our guys are locked in and ready, they’ve proven they’re a force up there. This alone helps Oscar and reduces the need for a player such as Isaiah Jackson or Anthony Davis in terms of their shot blocking ability.
In terms of “skilled height” down low, I truly believe Jacob will take a significant leap next year; honestly, I think he’s already given us more than anyone really expected from him. Granted, he doesn’t have the size of someone like Castleton, but he is still more than capable of holding his own.
Also, as others have mentioned, I think we’ll see significant improvement from Damion; I love his potential, and given more time to properly develop and work on his game ... he could make a significant difference next year.
But, in terms of your argument, I’m not saying it isn’t feasible or something we shouldn’t do, but I do think we need to see how the offseason transpires in terms of who we will be losing and who will be returning.
Ideally, I think we all can agree another year of Oscar is the best option. We’ll have some quality players coming back in the front court alongside him, as well, if it plays out in our favor.
Biggest hurdle is navigating the Shaedon situation, and then signing a couple more guards/wings who can replace the scoring production and shooting we will lose.
Collins can be great but Castleton is way way ahead of him in terms on production consistently.
I think A LOT depends on who we return next year!!
Lets say we lose no one from the front court (not likely), and add Livingston. Then I just don't see us adding a transfer there (to Oscar, Brooks, Toppin, Collins, Hopkins, Livingston, Ware). But honestly it is very unlikely we lose no one. Then it depends on who we lose, and how many we lose. A PROVEN transfer doesn't want to come into a situation where he isn't fairly confident we will play significant minute (at least 20mpg).
I honestly think Collins will blow up next year (& I correctly predicted he would not be a key contributor this year). He just needs to get stronger, which is the easiest thing to fix. He's not ever going to be Oscar or Randle or Bam or KAT strong. But he can Davis or Richards (JR) or WCS strong to not get pushed around.
Brooks and Toppin are both good enough to be at UK, but are they who you want playing 25mpg, and to have 2 of them.
Hopkins, we've heard how good he was in the summer, he gave us a flash of that 2 weeks ago, but not really proven it otherwise. But I think next year he could. With both him and Collins, the SOPH year is when most players see the biggest improvement. But for him to return, he may wait to see if Brooks or Toppin leaves to decide for himself.
Livingston, we don't know what we are getting. But simply due to the numbers, he may be like Hopkins this year.
Ware has no offense in his game, so we will always just be a guy coming off the bench trying to fill a role. And you need those guys in the 10-13 man spots. But he's not a threat to a potential in-transfer.
As for Oscar, many of you say he isn't an NBA player (which I disagree, but that's another thread) because he isn't long enough (rim-protrector) or a good enough shooter (stretch-4). So Cal could do to him what he did to Patterson, and have him spot up in the corner shooting 3's. That would obviously cut down on his offensive rebounding, but if it helps him then I could see that happen. I think we would still see 10-12 reb/gm. But him returning would make it a difficult SELL for Cal to convince another BIG to come to UK. But if Oscar does go to the NBA, I can't imagine how we would not be THE TOP DESTINATION for any top level BIG transfer!
I do like Castleton a lot. I don't remember him from last year, but see he put up solid #'s. And while he may only be the 3rd best post-player in the SEC, I would not be surprised if he is top 10-15 in the country. But as a SR, I think he has probably hit his ceiling, but I would take that if we lost Oscar.
To be clear, my worries, regarding skilled height and perimeter quickness, ate solely from the defensive perspective and what it takes to win a national championship. In particular, the height of teams like Gonzaga, Arizona, Purdue and Auburn present problems with their size. Also, our frequent inability to stay in front of quick teams who spread and bounce the ball also worries me, especially if they are capable, consistent shooters. Cal is committed to man defense in all situations. To my view, rim-protection greatly alleviates my concerns.
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How did Morehead State get this guy? Must have been a sleeper!I wonder if he would be interested? He's young and seems to be really improving. He can score the rock.
He could step up to the big stage. He went 32/8 yesterday against Murray, scoring almost half their points. I'd love to see him show interest in the Cats !! He's left-handed ... a mini Artis !! Go get him, Chin !!
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This is called a message board. You know, a place where people discuss UK basketball related stuff. I swear, some of you people amaze me with how important you think you are.
One, Cal is likely going to a 4 guard lineup. And that is a good thing, as it really limits you defensively and rebounding.
Two, him going to a 3-guard lineup this year, was NOT a permanent thing. He will base it on the roster he has each season. He said he will make sure he has shooters, that I think he will try to continue.
Three, this year was not the first time he primarily played 3-guards.
-2013 Harrow, Mays, Goodwin
-2014 the twins and Young
-2016 Ulis, Murray, Briscoe
-2017 Fox, Monk, Briscoe
-2018 SGA, Diallo, Green
-2019 Hagans, Herro, Johnson
-2020 Hagans, Maxey, Quickley
-2021 Askew, Mintz, Boston
Maybe you consider Young and Johnson and Boston 3's, ok, but they weren't "bigs" were more perimeter, and still the others were not.
So no, I would not be surprised if we have a 3 that is more of a 3 than a 2, or even a 3.5 (like Brooks or Toppin or Hopkins).
He was a sleeper who blossomed, apparently ... see this piece below:
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Wouldn’t it be great if Hopkins could give Collins about 15 pounds. I seriously doubt Hopkins will be here next year though.
That dude/chick just wants everyone to be a cheerleader. I dont think he really knows anything about the game itself . I’ve never actually seen him/her post anything worthwhile. Just try’s to put others “in their place” .
Weird logic.
If we reduced every possibility down to "let Cal handle it", we'd have nothing to discuss.
This is a message board meant for speculation and discussion. Once you realize that fact, you may find yourself enjoying this place a lot more instead of always running around like an angsty, recently divorced hall monitor.